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From: Peter W . Rowe Date: Tue Sep 02 22:37:06 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > I wouldn't recommend this ..... Red golds , esp. 18k > gold/copper binary alloys need to be quenched while still very hot > , they should be quenched from Red Heat. They can harden so much , > if cooled too slowly that you can have castings break ! Mark, That's hotter than you need, and can cause cracking just from thermal stress, especially in castings which may have a rather coarse crystal structure, and are thus weaker. Red golds get brittle from formation of an ordered array structure upon slow cooling, but this structure doesn't start to form at your higher/red hot quench temps. You can safely cool the red golds to around 800F or so with no hardening taking place yet. Then quench, preferably in alcohol, or perhaps boiling water, so as to not cause stress cracking. Either alcohol or boiling water will still chill the metal fast enough to prevent that hardening.. If you look up a phase diagram for copper and gold binary alloys, you'll see two inverted parabolic narrow zones , one centered on around 18K corresponding to a formula of AuCU, which forms at temps below about 760F, and another a bit to the left of that, corresponding to a formula of either AuCu2 or AuCu3 (I forget which, right off the top of my head...) which starts to fom at a slightly lower temperature. Those are the stable zones for the ordered array structure. By the way, just for fun, any of you who have copies of Diego Pinton's "Jewelry Technology", take a look at the diagram of the copper/gold phase diagram on page 327, figure 380. Then tell me, "what's wrong with that picture?". Unless I'm missing something essential, that diagram has a couple fundamental errors, which mess up a bunch of interpretations of the thing. Anyone else see what I'm seeing there? (grin) If you're not sure, check another source for that diagram, such as T.K. Rose, "metalurgy of gold". (If anyone wants me to email them those diagrams, let me know. I can scan them and send you the scans. Probably best with a higher speed connection...). Peter Rowe ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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