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From: John Burgess Date: Sun Jun 01 22:48:08 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== G'day; Now I've come all over academic (Shame, shame!!) The word ORGANIC has had it's original meaning considerably changed in the last half century. If applied to a material it used to mean that the material was the product of some life process, and the word INORGANIC was applied to anything that was not the result of a life process. Thus all vegetables, plants and animals are organic in origin. Thus to talk about , say, 'organic lettuces' is nonsense - or course they are organic. Inorganic lettuces don't exist. So if you take a lettuce seed and grow it in a fertilizer made of minerals (nitrates, sulphates, iron, cobalt, selenium etc) that lettuce is still organic. So it was grown with inorganic fertilizers instead of life produced ones (like manure, compost, etc), but it is still organic. Lets consider a material used by jewellers; 'Liver of Sulphur' (potassium poly sulphide) is inorganic; made from potassium and sulphur. 'Lime sulphur' (calcium poly sulphide is made by heating lime with sulphur. So it is an inorganic blackening agent for silver and copper. You want an organic agent? Well, stew your silver or copper with onions, or garlic, and the organically produced sulphur compounds in these once-living plants will blacken the metals. And by the way, whilst I'm being academic, the silver or copper is not oxidized to blacken it; the metals are sulphided!! OK, so what about limestone, calcium carbonate? Bit confusing here. Most limestone is the product of marine animals which once lived, BUT - and here's the confusion. Before life formed on this earth, there was calcium carbonate, and some of it still exists. Well, organic or inorganic? So you see things get difficult if one tries to be too clever! These days chemists try not to mention the two words. -- Cheers for now, John Burgess; johnb AT ts.co.nz of Mapua, Nelson NZ ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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