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> Not once have i ever forged the ingot prior to rolling and to be
> honest I can't think of a single time when something hasn't worked
> an i've thought "maybe i should have forged that first".
I and a friend (who is smart) read all the offlist links and.pdf's
about grain structure and concluded that hammering on the metal
won't make the grains any smaller. Forging at best bends and distorts
the crystalline grains/structures but doesn't make them any smaller.
I'm going to continue to not forge ingots for the next 30 years.