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From: Derek Date: Tue Jul 01 22:52:03 2008 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Excerpt from an earlier post. Even gem quality turquoise will absorb skin oil over time and darken....All turquoise is porous until stabilized, regardless of quality. (Which is far from impossible, and will make it easier to cut without cracking.) Lindsay Legler (Who only likes carving and cutting stabilized or reconstituted stones, because they don't break or discolor ) Lindsay, it seems like a strange approach to turquoise to want it only stabilized for the sole purpose that the color remains constant. If a stone cracks it's usually because it had a crack in it or it has been treated too roughly. Only a few stones crack spontaneously, like opal, that can be unstable. I made the original post about this material and now that I've cut quite a few cabs, I find that it's quite attractive and takes an excellent polish. For those interested, my testing of the material shows a range of hardness between 4 and 5 mohs. Most is 5. Based on the responses I've gotten off this forum privately and publicly, I've concluded that this is very unusual material and not readily available. Several very knowledgeable people originally even voiced skepticism that Peruvian turquoise actually existed. But I double checked the source with the person who originally imported it and found that it was absolutely from Peru. Also one look at a photo of the finished stones has convinced every skeptic that it is turquoise, not a form of chrysocolla that is frequently called Peruvian turquoise. That other material is a copper ore and much darker. It seems from my reading that the color of turquoise is generally influenced by the relative amounts of copper and iron in the stone. As to the color of this material, it is in the pastel ranges of blue and green, and tends more towards the green. It's quite vibrant in color and some has a nice matrix, although I've cut most pieces without matrix. The colors of the matrix can range from brown through a darkish olive green to even a bright red and some of the turquoise has splashes of red in it. It's also yielding some larger stones even up to and potentially through the 40 mm range. I have not yet attacked the largest pieces of rough. It also cuts some scenic stones. As to changing color, I've cut a piece to wear myself. Before too long I will be able to tell if it darkens with wear. If, however, it does darken by absorbing the oils from my skin, I will consider it rather a nice interaction between me the wearer, and the jewelry I choose to wear. I suspect the color will still be attractive. It seems that there are still a great many people who like the natural untreated stone, go out of their way to find it and pay a premium to get it. I'm also pretty certain that some of the harder turquoises will not take stabilizing. That's why it seemed odd to have the comment that turquoise should be stabilized. If it does impregnate, it then becomes largely plastic. I may be a minority in this, but I prefer my stones to be stone and mostly untreated. There is something more elemental about that. There is a wide range of what is stone these days with multiple treatments that go from heating to totally fake. The real problem is that there is way too much that is intended to deceive. To me the beauty in the stone is in large part that it is stone. Although I'd rather have all natural, alterations like heat treating and even irradiating still leave the finished product a stone. Heat and radiation are after all alterations that can actually happen in a natural situation, so it remains stone. That is important to me, though I acknowledge that it is a personal preference. What should not be a preference is full disclosure of treatments. I think there are many reasons for that, but one of the main ones has to be an extremely important element in jewelry that should not be overlooked. That is that probably most often, the piece of jewelry is connected with sentiments. It is so frequently associated with an occasion or the commemoration of an emotional bond. How many times have I seen stones that people show me that were sold at a relatively high price but that are not what they were said to be at sale. Sold through deception. Yet the person who is wearing it believes that it is authentic and commemorates something important in her life. To me somehow a deep emotional bond, bound up with a deception, bases the whole set of transactions, emotional and commercial, on inauthenticity. Most people who buy turquoise do not know that it has been stabilized, or even worse reconstituted making it mostly plastic. Even worse still are those who end up with just plain fake. I prefer my symbols of emotion to at least be firmly planted in the truth. I actually like them from the earth. Of course plastic is made from petroleum which began it's life as a natural product. Sorry to go on so, I guess in the final analysis as long as there is disclosure customers can make up their own minds, but I prefer untreated turquoise. Anyway, if any one wants to see a photo of this turquoise just email me off list. Derek Levin www.gemmaker.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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