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From: kelly luttrell Date: Mon May 12 21:52:14 2008 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== You might want to try the 103E red (Ninomiya or Aoki) available from Enamel work Supply in Seattle. She sells small samples, so it may be worth a try. I work primarily on fine silver -- but this has been the best behaved red I have ever worked with (beautifully transparent with no specks) -- so maybe it will cooperate with copper. This enamel was designed to fire directly on silver without an undercoat and not turn that ugly orangey-brown color. There is also 105-A & 105-B which are both beautiful colors, but I also got some of the white specks you mentioned with the 105-A. Also, regarding the specks/contaminants you got in your Schauer reds. I purchased 5 colors of the Schauer enamels through Rio (I was so excited when they started carrying them.) But alas -- they all had strange whitish specks in them after firing. I contacted the sales director through Milton Bridge (where I used to buy Schauer enamel in bulk -- and never had any problems with the enamel.) He said that occasionally refractory material from the manufacturing and grinding process of the enamel would contaminate a batch -- but was something they seriously tried to prevent in their quality control. But ALL of the Schauer enamels I bought from Rio Grande had this problem... it was the worst in the red/brown and violet purple. I sent them back, and actually had them send me a couple of other samples from other lot numbers and still had the same problem. Thankfully Rio Grande has amazing customer service, and took the returned enamels and credited my account, but I was sooooo disappointed, because Schauer enamel is known for it's quality. I have purchased them before and not had the problem with the white specks, but am now reluctant to purchase Schauer enamels again from Rio in case this is an ongoing recurring problem. Has anyone else experienced this ... what is going on!?!?!?! Big Bummer!! Well, give the Japanese red enamels a try -- best of luck. P.S. Seeing your post reminds me that I need to send in my Enamel Guild West dues -- eeeek!! Kelly Luttrell Payne www.indigoflameworks.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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