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From: Karen Christians Date: Tue May 06 03:09:16 2008 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Each supplier selling solder offers a wide and varied choices in temperatures. I have found that Rio's hard solder takes a tremendous amount of heat to flow and even when you apply heat, it does not flow consistently as well as other suppliers' hard solder. Although Rio Grande's and Hauser and Miller's hard solder has the same flow temperature, Rio Grande's seems to just ball up and be almost mushy. It is not my first pick for hard solder, although their easy and medium are fine and have consistent color match. Hauser and Miller's hard solder takes a tremendous amount of heat to flow. Their alloy has a yellow tinge which does not match sterling as exactly as I would like. However, in teaching students, it is a good all around solder to use. I have found that Hoover and Strong's hard solder which has a higher flow temperature, when heated flows beautifully and has an excellent color match with sterling. I don't have the flow points for Otto Frei since I haven't used their silver solder, but I think their gold solder is quite good. I don't like Hoover and Strong's gold solder, as it sort of blobs and goes nowhere. DH Fell's solder is quite good, flows very nicely, color match is very good, and takes less heat. However, look at the temperature difference in "hard" solder between DH Fell and Hoover and Strong which equates to a 125 degree difference. This is huge! I did not realize there was such a huge difference in temperatures, until I actually took the time to research all up the flow points for silver solder from various suppliers. It answered a lot of questions when I was fabricating, or when students were working. They thought there was something wrong with the solder they purchased. I wrote down all the info and post it on my bench when I order. By listing some of the suppliers, you can see that the varying temperatures will actually give you a larger range of Easy to Medium to Hard. I keep a large case of small containers which have every kind of solder from every manufacturer and their flow rate listed on each one. I realize that it is kind of OCD to do this, but it's very handy everything right in front of me. I can't stress enough the importance of documenting materials when fabricating work. Here are some useful tips in approaching soldering in fabrication: 1) play around with your design and nail down your final sketch 2) now de-construct your design into steps understanding what solder you will be using with which section. This is like an imploded drawing like you get at Ikea. 3) document your progress as you build with what stones you chose and who you purchased them from, measurements and sizes of metal stock and vendor, pressure on a rolling mill if you used one, etc. By going through these steps, when you need to build something again, all your documentation will be done and you won't spend YOUR precious time re-inventing the wheel. Silver Solder Wire Flow Points Hoover and Strong Best color match to sterling silver Easy 1250 F Medium 1295 F Hard 1490 F Rio Grande Good color match in Easy and Medium Easy 1325 F Medium 1360 F Hard 1450 F Hauser and Miller Slight yellowing in their solder, but good for beginners Easy 1325 F Medium 1360 F Hard 1450 F DH Fell Good color match and good flow for all solders. Just be mindful of their temperatures if you are mixing one vendors with another. Easy 1240F Medium 1275 F Hard 1365 F Hope this helps! Karen Christians Cleverwerx ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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