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From: John Donivan Date: Sat Mar 22 22:31:58 2008 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > Nothing I have seen in this thread has provided any specific or > uncontroversial reason why silver cannot be used for setting "fine" > or "precious" stones With my kid gloves on this time...... I think most people on this thread miss the point. As one boasted the other day "I could make all that stuff in silver". Well, of course you could, or a qualified person could. I could make most of them in copper. The point is, can you sell it. And I don't mean "will the public buy it", I mean are you really going to put out a 10 carat diamond set into those prongs? Take as a good example a ballerina ring (if they were selling to begin with lately...) with some big center stone and like 4 point baguettes. And take into account the strength of materials, as is our job. You can set those baguettes with something like 22 gauge wire in gold, 24 gauge in platinum (though you'd likely use the drawplate, so it could be 23 gauge). If you set diamond baguettes into 24 gauge silver prongs, with a bearing cut, you're going to be able to pull them off with a fingernail, and if you put that job out you'll start getting returns in a week. You're going to need at least 20 gauge, which is going to bury the diamonds under metal. Yes, it can be made in silver, but to make it in silver with any knowlegable sense of confidence that it won't come back on you is going to be something entirely different than if it were done in platinum. Modelmakers, at least good ones, make platinum jewelry in silver, but they don't sell the the silver rings, they make molds of the models. As I've said many times here - I personally don't care if someone wants to set anything into anything - it's the idea that something like the ballerina can be tossed off in silver without allowing for the differing properties. You can, but it will haunt you. You can set a fine 10 carat diamond into silver, but the prongs (nobody in their right mind would bezel set it unless it was.5mm platinum) and the supporting ring structure will be so fat, so you the maker can sleep nights, that it will be something considerably less than what it could be by simply choosing something stronger to begin with. Again, a great deal of the reasoning behind using gold or platinum is not snobbery, it's engineering. http://www.donivanandmaggiora.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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