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From: Kevin P. Kelly Date: Wed Mar 19 22:51:31 2008 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Daniel- > Our relatively different experiences (vis-a-vis men buying jewelry) > are probably more based on different venues than anything else. > Although I did do craft shows early on in my career, I can no > longer remember whether I had better luck selling men's jewelry > then. But I do know that in my store the stuff just doesn't move. > And please note that I market heavily to, and am strongly supported > by, the local gay community. But even my gay male clients tend to > go primarily for very plain wedding bands. It may well have to do with venues on an even larger scale; say the northeast vs California, San Francisco and LA. It's been my experience that people from the east and midwest characterize people from CA as being extremely different. This attitude is mainly from people who have never been to CA. Although those people may be right; I spent too many years in CA to be objective. I lived in the San Francisco area for over twenty years. Maybe people from CA, especially from SF and LA, are very different. I know when I go to New England It's almost as if I'm in a foreign country. Those years in San Francisco had a strong effect. The bulk of my jewelry education took place in CA. I started out doing street fairs and from early on I made men's jewelry along with other jewelry including women's jewelry. It wasn't a business plan; it just went that way. I've always had a large gay and lesbian following in addition to customers from 18 to 95. Everything I do is on 'spec'; I only do custom work for people who have previously purchased work from me. The 95 year old, I'm sorry to say now deceased, bought gold rings from me only if the opals were very flashy. But I digress. Daniel, your description of New Yorkers are how I would characterize gay men in the San Francisco area. I make fairly high end jewelry. Gay men usually have a higher level of disposable income, are better education and are more articulate and witty than the average male. There may be gays who don't fit my characterization; but I haven't met them. But as I've said my experience is mainly in the San Francisco area. But even though I focused my comments on CA I've also sold to high power lawyers in the D.C. area; educators, engineers, investment bankers from NYC to LA and San Francisco. Almost all were rings with fairly exotic opal. I made the comment that people don't know what they want until they see it. One of my favorite things is wine. I and my wife had a lovely white in Beaune, France; a Sevigny de Beaune. We have a local beverage store that looks like one of those old gas stations that one sees in the southwest. But they do have quite a selection of wine. I asked the wine person if he had a Sevigny de Beaune. He said he had the red but not the white. I asked why he didn't have the white. He told me that people don't buy the white. I said: but you don't stock the white. Daniel I am in no way suggesting that you change yours ways; from every indication you have a very successful business. My posting was intended to note that we shouldn't let our prejudices prevent us from taking a broader view of this business. KPK ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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