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From: Terry Ogden
Date: Fri Feb 15 22:13:23 2008
 
     
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John

>     It seems to me that some had a knee-jerk reaction to (poor)
>     Helen's pride in having a nice little rolling mill for cheap. The
>     knee jerk being that good=best=more money. The best chain nose
>     pliers for me are $45 Lindstroms - I'm on my 4th pair. The best
>     pliers for Helen are more like $10 and hopefully less. She (or one
>     like her) doesn't know how to get $45 worth out of a pair of
>     pliers. The best rolling mill for anyone is a $25,000 motorized
>     wiz-bang unit, but few have the money, the shop real estate or a
>     real need for it. I've made mega$ worth of stuff on my regular
>     Cavallan and it just keeps on rolling. Junk is junk obviously, but
>     best is not the most expensive, it's the right tools for the job
>     and the circumstances. Beginners throw money at it, experience says
>     "This is just right for what I need it to do. 

    I have avoided this conversation like the plague, it is one we seem
    to have often. Its topic may change but the subject is always the
    same, spend, buy the best. Many times it is not the tool, but the
    lack of skill in the hands the tool finds itself in, and I am not
    poking at the beginners any less than myself for I am still a
    beginner. I have a pair of round nose pliers that in electronics are
    the perfect tool and when I bought them the price I paid would have
    covered 4 pair of Levis. With silver they are not the perfect tool,
    they are too smooth, the wire slips, I grip harder to hold it, and
    crush the wire or dimple it. I bought a $6 pair from Hobby Lobby
    that is frosted in their circumference and they work great, the
    surface of the pliers do not blemish the wire and I don't have to
    grip harder to keep it from slipping. 

    Good words John, thanks for sharing the wisdom. 

Terry
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