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From: Peter W . Rowe Date: Mon Dec 31 05:27:31 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > In said video, you will find overwhelming evidence to counter your > claim that setting a Princess cut into straight prongs is > incorrect. It's not the straight shape of the prong that's the problem. It's the way the seat is cut. The OP described just a tiny drill hole. That means a round hole, at least to me. So the hole, though it traps the point, and would also prevent a stone from falling out in the manner you describe in the rest of your post, does not equate to a proper setting. There's more to a secure setting than whether the stone will fall out if you cut off two prongs. That's actually easy. More of a test is whether the seat not only holds the stone secure, but is also holding it in a manner that protects if from damage in the event of a blow. Usually that requires a greater width to the prong than a narrow round wire, so the stone is supported by the girdle to each side of the point, not the point itself. If the stone is tight in an improper prong, just cutting off two prongs, or pushing the stone, should be no more likely to loosen or remove the prong than in a more traditional correct setting. But the incorrect setting is more likely to result in stone breakage in the even that one or more prongs is actually pulled back or loosened, which is more likely to happen with straight or narrow or less strong prongs. And as the OP observed, such a prong, once pulled out of position back away from the stone, is much harder to tighten again correctly and with safety because of the spring of the wire. A narrow straight prong simply gives the stone less security, and is harder to service. That doesn't mean you can't make a video showing it doing wonderful things. I for one, have no trouble setting princess cuts in plain simple straight up and down simple round wire prongs. Not that hard. But I try to avoid doing so simply because the result doesn't look as good to me, and I know it's not as strong and doesn't protect the stone as well. And when I DO set a stone in such a setting, you can bet the seat for the corners is not just a tiny little drill hole. That, as the OP has observed, is not likely to do the job very well. It's certainly quick, though, and you see a lot of that sort of shoddy setting, especially coming from china and similar mass production situations. By the way, just because someone is a talented jeweler and teacher, and makes wonderful instructional videos, does not automatically mean that all their tricks and techniques are always the best way to do things, or always correct. It means they are the means that individual has found to work best for them, nothing more. Some of what's In Mr. Lewis's videos is wonderful and cool and great thinking, etc. Some other of what I've seen in some of them are methods I have a significant argument with and which give results I don't like at all. To each his own. Just remember that just because you see it in a video (Anyone's video) or book (anyone's book) or an Orchid posting (Anyones...) does not automatically guarantee that it's always correct or the best answer. But you might keep in mind that traditional methods and preferences, while not always up to date and sometimes limited in imagination, etc, ARE traditional methods simply because they've worked well over time, and for a lot of people. That doesn't mean they have no room for improvement of course, but it does lend a certain authority to a method simply through the time proven experience or many people. Peter ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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