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From: Trevor F Date: Sat Dec 01 03:53:00 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Thank you all for your feedback on by "square wire makes burrs" problem. A few of you have suggested that it's the mill producing the burrs that are later revealed by the draw plates but I assure you that's not the case. My mill is in very good shape, virtually new in fact, and I've examined the wire I roll out of it very closely, even carved into it to see if anything was hidden beneath the surface. I am quite confident that there are no sub-surface "fins" or ripples or anything else of that sort. Given that I can raise the burrs in question at any time by simply drawing larger gauge square wire through a round draw plate I am certain that it's that process that is causing the burrs, not something that was in the wire before it went through the draw plate. > It sounds like you need an intermediate draw plate to start the > rounding off process.... Or Start with a larger size squaring plate > first which would leave the corners a bit round on a first pass. Jesse, An intermediate plate sounds like an interesting idea (see below) and I'd very much like to know if that's the way others have solved this type of problem. I'm afraid I'm a bit puzzled by your mention of a "larger size squaring plate" because (a) I'm not using a squaring plate, I'm running the squared wire that comes off the mill through round holed plates and (b) I don't want to make squared wire -- I can get that off the mill -- it's round wire that I'm after. > You could attempt to run the square wire through at a forty-five > degree angle, and make octagonal wire of it. Flattening the > corners would go a long way in the transition from square to > round.... Loren, Now, that's an interesting thought, and relates I think to what Jesse has suggested. I do have hexagonal plates which might be worth trying. When I think of it that might have some relation to wire pulling the way I normally do it, which is to run large gauge stuff through the mill until it is small and then move over to the drawplates. The upshot of it is that by the time the wire is done in the mill the proportional difference between one of the squared off corners and one of the sides is much much less than when you pull the wire out of the mill when it's still a large gauge. In other words, fine wire off the mill is more hexagonal than large wire would be. It was interesting to read that you've basically ignored them and, I presume, suffered no ill effects because of it. I'm at a loss, and dead curious, to know more. Are the burs imbedded in the wire but it just doesn't matter that much? Does the process at some point correct itself and the burrs just "go away"? I suppose I could just go ahead at try some of this to see for myself but I'm reluctant to sacrifice the metal to find out, though I suppose one need not run a great lot through in order to see what happens. Still, I am curious on your thoughts about where those burrs go. Cheers, Trevor F. in The City of Light Visit TouchMetal.com at http://www.touchmetal.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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