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From: Dar Shelton Date: Sat Dec 01 03:52:53 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Continuing even though the customer is happy with the way things are now, I thought about the way I have my mill set up, which is with the original handle removed, and 1.5" gears on the mill and the 1/4 hp gearmotor,and a motorcycle chain running things. It became obvious that it was set up for speed rather than power, so I considered my options there at 3:00 am (normal work time for me, a bit inconvenient for running to the stores!) and decided first to try the mill with it's original handle. I even used a cheater bar but couldn't roll fresh tool steel deep enough off of my hardened master plate. Next idea was to put a bigger gear on the mill itself --which I had, but not with the right sized bore, so I stuck a rotary file in the drill press and made it.050" larger in there, since I didn't think my little rubber-band-driven watchmaker's lather was up to the job ! -- to get the torque ratio more in my favor, by a factor of about 2 . This was very noticeably more beefy, and with a better attachment than the last gear, the thing runs smooth and powerful, and ALMOST rolls a fresh tool steel plate off of the master. Almost, but not quite deep enough, so my next move is to either put a bigger gearmotor on it or a bigger gear. Gears are a boatload cheaper at the surplus joint where I got these gears and motor, so that's the plan. Running steel on steel today, I could hear the motor straining under the load, slowing, slowing as the 6" by 1.5" plates squeezed through, and just barely making it through without stopping. No hammering the mill's adjustment handle to open it up, but not quite the whole enchilada on the resulting texture either. I am somewhat uncertain about indiscriminately adding torque to my mill but even with a gear twice as big as the one on now (which is twice as big as the 1.5" one from earlier ) it still comes in substantially less that the "handle-driven diameter". That's thinking in terms of the length of the handle doubled, which can be envisioned as the size of the imaginary gear driving the mill in manual mode. What I don't know is how much torque this mill is built to withstand, but I'm thinking that since the motor was getting taxed, even as the metal went through very smoothly, I have mill capacity headroom. Which tells me I could either go for a little bit bigger motor, or a bigger gear, as stated. It's fairly close to what I need now, so I figure I don't need any drastic jump in power, so I'm thinking (thinking this through logically right now) I don't need to worry about my mill being damaged. At worst, some internal gearbox teeth will be sacrificed in the name of research. (At least I hope that's all that might happen... I haven't opened it up to see inside about what else could be hurt). So, with a $400 Pepe (4:1 gearbox ratio) , a $75 used gearmotor , some spare parts and plenty of R&D, I get a setup that would cost thousands otherwise. And judging from the lack of similar, tool-steel-based experiments posted concurrent to mine, I may just be adding a new bite of knowledge to the trade. Of course this has all been done on a large, industrial scale before, but it's new to me. Also, when this all works itself out I plan to offer hardened-steel, hammered plates for sale in some form or other. Seems the obvious thing to do, since I saw and sand and bang and heat treat tool steel plates (pancake blanking dies) all the time anyway. Stay tuned, Dar Shelton sheltech.net ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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