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From: Mary Ellin D'Agostino Date: Wed Nov 21 05:29:17 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > I am certainly going to heat up garnets, moonstone and preridot to > about 600C for 30 minutes (and longer) and see if they survive.... Hmmm. Many, many people have been doing this for some years now. There are several published lists (from reliable sources) indicating what result you can expect when heating these stones using metal clay firing schedules. Now, if you were to say you wanted to do it so you could take and publish before and after microscopic images of the stones or give a detailed description of the stones before and after using magnification, that would be a great thing. But merely to try it and "see if they survive" would be redundant and not advance knowledge. > ...but it would be interesting if there was a PMC worker on > ganoksin that put a diamond in the oven properly and photograph > the results. I think the term "properly" is the key here--you need to define what you mean. You obviously have certain expectations of what is "proper" and don't feel that the reported results were achieved in a "proper" manner. Do you mean a well defined scientific experimental process? Although not accompanied by images, the results reported by Kevin Whitmore, Art Clay World, myself, and others have been achieved by what most people would consider acceptable experimental procedures. Not perfect, but good preliminary results. Generally what is lacking is the easily found posting on the web of the detailed methodologies used to arrive at the reported results. Procedures have been presented and discussed at conferences, on the PMC Guild discussion board, and the yahoo metalclay list. A more detailed look at the various stones including test firing using numerous stones from different sources is what is really needed next along with published results and methodology. Garnet is an excellent example of where we need more information and systematic testing. Many types of garnet seem to do ok when fired at metal clay schedules, though rhodolite tends to darken. As more and more people have been experimenting with firing garnets in place, there have been reports of trouble--mostly with rhodolite. The problem is that it sometimes takes on a dark metallic (think polished hematite) surface sheen after firing. The current best hypothesis is that the sheen may be a product of heating/cooling the iron in pyrope-almandine series garnets or that it is caused by iron in (cork clay) armatures sometimes used in making hollow pieces. I would love it if a gem expert would take on this question and figure out what is going on and why... Mary Ellin D'Agostino, PhD www.medacreations.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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