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From: Hratch Date: Wed Oct 03 05:39:15 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== hello all After months of trial and errors and experimenting, I am asking anyone on orchid with info and experience in working palladium and it's alloys to give me some direction. I am interested in using the 950 palladium of hoover which is very nice metal, in wrought goods or the castings from them. Earlier on I had cast a few pieces in NYC in palladium 950 ; the metal was about 5 shades darker then hoovers and when i came to working with them the HS metal stayed bright after annealing with a slight pink shadow that I took off with a scotch brite pad, now the NY casting after annealing actually went even darker in patches and stayed darker I could not get it off with the abrasive wheel. the NY one is noticeably bluer then the Hoover and strong alloy.and I mean Blue that is not coming off, and i can't really abrade it too much since the pieces have very fine textured surfaces part of the design. I called the caster in NY (I don't want to mention names because this not what I am writing for. they have been a great casting company for a very long time). so with the phone call they couldn't help. I know that hoover & Strong's alloy is right on,i am just wondering after talking to few experts in town how much of a variable there is going to be with these alloys. is there the possibility of contamination of metal,or crucibles or??? in my mind 950 pall is the same color everywhere. if it is like platinum 950 or 900 is most of the time the same color from any where, my problem is that I was trying to match older cast things for a client to a new piece or so and the color does not match at all. the hoover metal almost had a slight pink/warm hue vs the other that is on the blue/Grey side. is it possible to mix the palladium with different things and have it be 950. is this working the same way as the karat Golds, as in 18 is 18 but you have as many choices in color as there are metallurgists ? Does this mean that for consistency's sake to stay with one company or another??? would palladium 950 have a difference in color then say united metals or Ross or...?? or is it that the casting houses will be using different methods/gases/atmosphere of casting and so the same metal comes out different? One more thing on the palladium scene, I been using also the karat golds the 14 and 18 palladium on occasion and noticeably the 18k has been getting very dark after annealing and soldering, and the sparex is not taking that dark almost black discoloration off, is that oxide,'firescale' do i need to use a white gold acid or nickle type acid. help sincerely Hratch ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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