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From: R . E . Rourke Date: Mon Oct 01 06:35:16 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== 1) find a few reputable gemstone suppliers, ask for quotes on the sizes and quality and in which quantities you wish to buy them, and where in that quote do price breaks occur for a) quantity b) quality/colour . then after calculating the best price on what you want, and inspecting the parcels you will actually recieve ask if the company that you want to deal with will sell them to you at a price you deem fair ( based on the prices you have accumulated from the dealers you have access to) for the stones. for any stone. basically if it's in print it's too high- that I believe is universal to anything marketed. markets change faster thatn printing can keep up with those things that afffect change- trends, mining, taxes on producing nations, or collectives, the abhorrent practices of " the diamond dealers"-( as an institution that has for decades overinflated the value and monopolized-or attempted a monopoly, on the sale and distribution of diamonds. ) and the perception of you and/or your enterprise by a dealer that is obviously more experienced in the trade of stones than you are - and I mean no offense by that statement, simply that if you are asking these questions, you have not dealt with stone dealers much. that's normal in your experiencing all aspects of being a jeweler and your continuing education as a consumer (obviously involved in the process of becoming an informed consumer as you are seeking some perspectives with your post!) of the wholesale components that are used in the fabrication/ manufacture of jewelry and the beginning of learning how to negotiate the lowest price possible for gem materials..diamonds or any gem material. and it requires negotiation and entering into a mutually beneficient relationship with dealers of the stones you wish to purchase and use in your "lines". finding out the origins of the gem material that interest you is helpful in negotiations of not only price but how many "middlemen" you wish to eliminate in your procuring the stones you want to use for whatever your purposes are. I, for instance, would far rather travel to Thailand once a year to buy from the small scale producers and collectives that are combing the gravels in their fields for an addition to their near subsitence incomes than opening a catalogue and paying a price that is at least marked up X x 2. 5 ( standard retail), and in the case of most larger US distributors is higher still than that- and limited to what they have gotten the best prices on by buying in quantity from a larger distribution entity than the rough miners, or even the cutters that are mostly owned by that entity that distributes the gem materials globally through trade shows, or organized collectives like Israeli diamond merchants, IDEX, or deBeers, or even smaller collectives like independant asian owned distribution channels that are ultimately " state" operated..However most small scale jewelers are not able to afford direct buying or travel and expenses relative to procuring a year or two worth of stones, so the only alternative is to open a catalog, attend a "gem show"or resort to ebay, or other auction-like venues to purchase as directly as is financially feasible. and the small scale jewelry manufacturer can develop relationships and make very good purchases from those alternatives. always remeber that any dealer of stones is charging more than they paid for the prices you see on the tables, or in the catalogues, and no good business person will pass up a reasonable offer. so make reasonable offers, don't be afraid to ask for a period of time to inspect a parcel and a reasonable return clause when signing any contract, or entering into any buying arrangement with any dealer or distribution channel. always inspect what you will receive and refuse anything that is flawed beyond your standards..always offer the "sticker" price minus 20% as an opening figure. it is negotiable- anything is negotiable in the gem trade. as you become more experienced and more relationships are built with dealers, you will be offered parcels that the dealer knows you- his/her target market- will likely buy and pay the price they know they can get from you. they eventually will regard your business as either negligible or substantial and your money is almost immaterial as far as the dealer is concerned. their concern is moving quantity, moving inventory that is out of vogue or that is in excess in their stores, moving merchandise that is flawed or rejected and possibly only good for recutting, ( chipped or abraded materials),,and you will learn who the cheapest recutters are and who offers you the best service and quality for the money and turn around time. there are no pat answers to your queries just that experience and your personal financial picture are the variables- all stones are available all the time- the prices are always negotiable, and in time you can construct or propogate a network that suits your own needs. and perhaps your propensity to create a collective group of buyers of gemstones to help the group buy in quantity which always commands more attention and eventual personalized services and far more reasonable prices than are availble to the jewelr that buys 5 carats of tourmailine, 10 round garnet cabs, and 8 10 pt. diamonds of SI1 quality. quantity is almost the single most relevant factor to keep in mind as you try to develop an efficient buying strategy for your needs. 3- markup: that is derrived from your asessment of time, labour, studio (and employees) overhead, costs of materials, and consultation (if it's custom or one-off work), and any taxes you have to pay as a manufacturer of jewelry. it is relative to each piece and each price tier you offer your target market. All bear equally as the previous components of figuring the retail cost ( or wholesale for that matter) of your work and how much you value it yourself. R. E. 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