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From: John Donivan Date: Sun Sep 09 05:00:52 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== I agree that this thread is dead, but this is related. I would like to elaborate on where I'm coming from with another example - one of ventilation. I recently toured a shop in an art school - a big art school. Each and every soldering station has a 4 inch pipe with a flange on the end to suck up "fumes". I can only imagine what the machinery is behind that. The last shop I worked in before opening my own had 6 or 7 goldsmiths working 8 hours a day in the space of a two car garage - 12 hours on OT. It wasn't a garage, just about that size. There were actually about 15-18 people there, but 6-7 torches going all day long - we never turned them off. For ventilation, we opened a couple of windows. Did we have respiratory problems? Nope. Did we have cyanosis or dilated pupils? Nope. Did we get drowsy or sleepy? Nope. Did any of us get sick of related problems? Nope, not ever. Did any of us die from any obscure or dire diseases related to "fumes"? Nope, happy as clams. Multiply that by the millions of people working in similar circumstances and you'll get the picture. Do jewelers have a shorter lifespan? Nope. Do bench jewelers have any occupationionally related respiratory diseases greater that the general population? Nope. So why the six 4 inch ventilation pipes? Because it's school, I guess. If anybody wants to put in a gigantic ventilation system, and it makes them feel good, and they have peace of mind, that's perfectly fine with me. Karen talked about a personal connection to COPD, and if it eases her mind, that's perfectly fine with me. When somebody gets up in front of a crowd and yells at the top of their lungs that everybody must have 4" pipe over every soldering station because of "fumes", even though there's no real evidence to support it medically, I will get outraged, and you may have noticed I don't mind saying it. Are there "fumes"? Techinically, I guess. Do they mean anything? Since nobody in industry has had any statistically significant problems for a century or so, probably not. As people have pointed out in other context's on Orchid - do your homework BEFORE you write it down. On the other hand, I am probably the most safety aware of people in my network of jewelers - don't confuse what I'm saying with being casual about safety. But chasing molecules of "fumes" with a massive ventilation system and then walking outside when a bus goes by spewing diesel is pretty ridiculous. If a person wants to work in a hermetically sealed chamber and it makes them feel good and feel safe and have piece of mind then they'll get no argument from me. If you're going to stand up and say that the rest of the world somehow needs to share that paranoia, I will protest. 100% safety is good. 150% safety is even better. 10,000% safety means you don't get it. http://www.donivanandmaggiora.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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