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From: R . E . Rourke Date: Sat Aug 04 05:50:26 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== jeff, i' m afraid you'll be better off just buying sheet coper and nickel and using them rather than buying the alloys as they are just designed to turn fine/plumb gold and silver into karated,,and coloured gold..to acheive this one adds various proportions of copper and nickel, and some trace elements, and in the case of some golds, silver. ( unless you get specialized..) so get the book from a library "Jewelrs Bench Reference", by Harold O'Connor, and buy some sheet copper and nickel and if you like silicates, (but generally unneccessary for your purposes. ) and the book gives you the correct proportions to make the alloys that are pre-combined for you in Rio, or a host of other manufacturers master alloys.. But Better yet, if you want the look, feel and non-tarnishing capabilities of a good working cheap alloy Hoover and Strong makes one called Tigold. It is generally used by sample makers as the colour is close to 18kt yellow, or some 14kt rich yellow colours, it doesn't tarnish for years if kept airtight, or semi-climate controlled (versatile stuff!) ands costs les than silver ( at least it did last time I bought any. ) it also requires the use of "additive b", which they recommend using far too much of to get colours closer to antique golds, and rich yellow or peach-y tones..use about half of their recomended amount unless you like the "rose/pink" gold look and the amount called for if you desire "red" gold as described by O'Connor.. Tigold costs something like 12 bucks an oz, and the additive is 8 bucks or so an oz but one oz goes into 8oz's if used as recommended ( which for me is way too red and tends to tarnish in two years due to the copper content of the additive - which just has some deoxidants added for mechanized casting operations!)..so for the cost of an ounce and a half of fine silver you get a product that yields the look and characteristics of karated gold at a fraction of the cost, and is far superior to casting alloys on the market due to the Tigold formula sans additive B..in fact you could probably call Hoover and Strong and ask for Stewart Grice and ask if you can use the TiGold without the additive for the specific type casting you are doing. I know for steam, direct, cuttlefish,delft clay and centrifugal ( swing it over your head style) casting, it looks brilliant without the "..additive B".. R. E. R. ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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