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From: John Donivan Date: Thu Aug 02 09:01:34 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > I'm sorry my question and subsequent answers have bored you so much Helen, I already apologized in another post and said that my comments weren't directed at you, specifically, and some other things. I always remember that there are - how many now? I looked it up - Orchid gets 240,000 unique visitors a month - something like 8500 members. There are jewelers who only solder settings on shanks, there are setters who only set, and various other tasks. For the general worker, though - someone like me - annealing is the one task that we will do the most times in our careers. I've probably annealed something literally about a million times. I made a pendant bale today and stamped it 14k before I bent it. That meant that it needed annealing before bending, just for the stamp. Hammer, anneal, roll, anneal, bend, anneal, punch, anneal, round, anneal, straighten, anneal. It's the most common task in metals, most likely, and the whole point I've been trying to get to is that it is just not complicated and there's no reason to make it so. It's interesting and useful to understand what's happening. It's also interesting to know how a refiner does it to 10,000 ounces at a time, but really what it boils down to is that you, the bench worker, likely has an inch of hard wire that needs to be made soft. And if you warm it to around 900F it will become soft - no muss, no fuss. My frustration is in no way with you, it's with the tangents - well, but the ideal way is to use a $5,000 annealing kiln, or use laser pumped kryptonite pyrometers. For one inch of silver wire? Huh? Ok, if someone wants to, or runs 10,000 ounces or big billets or has a bucket of cash in the back. But those people already know how to do that - it's their business. Almost everybody, almost every day, has to soften one inch of silver wire - soften the tips of wires they pounded on - ring shanks, on and on. Simple, everyday tasks. And you just heat it, and it's soft. No muss, no fuss. http://www.donivanandmaggiora.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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