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From: Phillip Baldwin Date: Sun Jul 15 05:33:22 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Woa Jay: Quite a few assertions, either direct or implied in your note that are simply not true. But first I'll weigh in on my favorite bronzes, there are several. I'm not going to include the precious metal copper alloys such as the shibuichis or shakudo alloys because they are in a class by themselves in terms of patina and cost. The first alloy really worth looking at is the classic 90 Cu/10 Sn bronze. this is the bronze of the ancient world independently developed in SE Asia and the Andean highlands. It can be worked hot and cold and is quite red. This material casts well and is good to machine. There is a modern version called phosphor bronze but it is hot short and very hard, not nearly as good to work, Very good to patina A second alloy is called commercial bronze, 90 Cu 10 Zn, also quite red, OK for casting, not quite as hard and workable both hot and cold. It is not quite as hard as classic bronze, but is softer to work when cold. It is available in sheet form. Fair on patina. The modern standard is silicon bronze, usually the "Everdure" alloy. Quite red, workable both hot and cold, casts very well. Quite hard and work hardens rapidly, does not machine very well. Can be patinated to a clear brown but exotic coloration is not easy. There are a host of others, many contain lead, which I don't recommend using. Back to patina. Yes, Reactive Metals is in business and ready to take your order. They carry two patinas for use on bronzes and the japanese alloys. One is a boiling (acutally simmering) patina called Rokusho and it does include some copper sulphate and this is the classic japanese patina. The other is called "Baldwin's Patina" (named after the inventor) and is is used cold for coloring copper alloys. It has never been recommended to use copper sulphate with it. Regarding the 50Ag - 50 Cu shibuichi: This alloy is quite white and does not patina will with either Rokusho or Baldwin's Patina. Any shibuichi alloy with more than about 35% silver is pretty grey or white. The artist I know who has really done some superb work with the high silver shibuichis is Jim Kelso and he used them as light colors. Shibuichis with with 25% or less silver can produce some very interesting colors. The best selling one (by far) is 15% silver and colors to a whole range including my favorite, a dark olive green. Shakudo is great stuff, though very soft, and has a unique purple black patina, which will develop simply by handling. Bronzes are great to work with, though with their own difficulties. Have fun experimenting. Phillip Baldwin ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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