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From: Victoria Lansford Date: Mon Jul 09 22:50:40 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > Does anybody know of a reference which pins down the proposition, > and I mean dates, records, names, and etc, that Ancient Egypt was > using electrum prior to Ancient Greece, and what was the name of > that alloy which is now known as electrum ? As I mentioned before > electrum has etymological roots indicating Greek origin. I'm not sure which culture you mean by 'ancient Greece.' According to 'Egyptian Metalworking and Tools,' electrum was used by the ancient Egyptians in predynastic times, which means before 3000BC. (I can't find what the evidence is, but all the books I've checked agree with this date though the earliest tomb painting of metal workers dates from 2500BC.) The Minoan civilization was from approximately 2700BC - 1450BC after which time the Mycenaeans took over Crete. The world 'electrum' wouldn't be Minoan in origin as that language is not thought to be a precursor of Greek. Ancient Greece is now thought to have begun around 1000BC, Classical 490BC, and Hellenistic 423BC. That Minoans used electrum first might be debatable, but that the Greeks did would not be. Instead of James Henry Breasted, try T. G. H. James' 'Gold Technology in Ancient Egypt: Mastery of Metal Working Methods' for more recent info. While some gold was mined within what are now Egypt's borders, in antiquity much of it came from Nubia, which was part of Egypt's empire and under Egypt's control for the better part of 3000 years (until the Nubians took over Egypt and ruled in the 25th dynasty). The exact location of the land of Punt is a hotbed of debate among Egyptologists. No one really knows where it was. There were gold mines in Egypt, and concerning imported metal, what the evidence indicates (tomb paintings and official court documents) is that metals were mined and sometimes smelted and cast into ingots before being brought to Egypt as tribute, but that most all of the alloying and artwork were executed in Egypt. It should be noted that the Greeks of the classical and Hellenistic period had a tendency to record their travels in Egypt and included their own names and explanations of much of the technology, but only some of these descriptions are likely true accounts. Herodetus wrote of a pyramid building machine 2000 years after the pyramids at Giza were built, and it is apparently mind bogglingly impossible in reality. Ok, stop me. I've completely geeked out! Victoria who at age 5 was so inspired by ancient Egyptian metalwork that she grew up and became a smith and almost became an Egyptologist too but decided she'd rather make art than dig it up Victoria Lansford http://www.victorialansford.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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