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From: R . E . Rourke Date: Fri Jun 29 06:22:49 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== OK..so lets count. Foredom :Winner with 10 mentions PLUS a Letter From Foredom's Head of Sales, Mike Zagielski Rio: 4 mentions and counting NHK: 1 mention Buffalo Dental : 1 allusion Stuller: honorable mention -Andy would be derelict in his position if he didn't at least try to get a bite of the chum Dremel: 1 mention albeit the poorman's stonesetting device ( but hey it can facet an emerald,carve stones, polish, cut, shape, drill, route, set a stone and mill some findings with a litlte practice!and relatively little funds to work with- and in some cases is all an individual can afford- not to mention they are versatile machines with some very useful, and adequate functions, and a slew of attachments, variable speed or single speed models, and bits that make them readily accessible 24 hours a day at many retailers when you live in the middle of nowhere and the only resource you have may be the horrid wal-mart 40 miles away that is open and has a 14.95 sintered diamond cut-off wheel, or convex carbide shaping bit at 3AM!) Proxxon or other micromotor: 2 mentions/endorsements and counting gee kids..a bit harsh on John's semantics there-If you didn't get his point..you didn't want to..Must be everyones cycle -into summer- that is!!! He is one of the kindest Orchideans I have ever encountered on this forum-always ready to share a solid working knowledge of the arts and sciences involved in metalsmithing SANS EGO,and well tempered-as John's own work is testament to: stunning,precise, sometimes playful art --He never takes a 'holier -than-thou' stance or inflection...the man KNOWS STONE SETTING intimately.. So prior to defending a paid teacher one should perhaps try to discern and retain the heart of the information he is putting out there freely... It also follows than a beginner, not even knowledeable about tools, torque and techniques should not imply that John's comments were "ripping" at all..rather, as with most busy working jewelers,his jotting off a quick stream -of-consciousness note to HELP clarify what some paid, globe trotting teacher barely touched upon should be met with thanks, and graciousness... Therein is one of my personal arguments against quickie intensives or certain "schools" of lapidary or jewelry making..For example, just last week I was at a tailgating night at Wm. Holland Lapidary school..and an older woman-with no intention of becoming a jeweler per se, or even "professional wire-wrapper ", if such a thing exists, told me " this is the 4th time I'm taking Wire 1..the first three teachers didn't even tell us how to straighten wire or care for it "..this kind of instruction transcends one school, one subject and the 4 teachers in this example..While some schools are indeed geared to turning out "professionals", or at least, more than hobbyists, many teachers don't cover the basics..like, in this case, types of equipment appropriate to the task, what to look for in terms of task, whether or not one piece of equipment can accomplish more than one task- and what would they be. and how to care for any equipment regardless of the tasks it can accomplish, beyond the manufacturers inserts...and on and on through the basics.. Orchid helps eliminate the need for a beginner to, through trial and error, or a rio catalogue as their only point of reference,invest a fortune in duplicating tool purchases in hopes of finding the right equipment for making jewelry..Many Orchideans are teachers - and this is not a slam against any information you may be presenting in your classes. In general, MOST schools are clear cut in prerequisite knowledge and most students have at least a basic if not working knowledge of what they are going to a particular place to learn or accomplish, or in some cases, just to meet a jeweler they look up to or are infatuated with ( it has happened!!) without any regard for the information presented in the class as it is secondary to their motivations. Again, i am driven to the keen edge that semantics seem to play in orchid posts..which i find completely counterproductive and of which the use is WAY out-of-context: if semantics concern you more than the information you have the option to buy books, dvd's, cd's, video's, summarizations of presentations at industry related events, etc...Don't log on expecting that everyone posting here has the time to do anything more than offering their own experiences, personally acquired information and typing it with a willingness to freely share what they have learned, most through years of experience and trial and surprise ( as opposed to error!), without charging a fee( Gerry comes to mind in his effusive distribution of information- at no charge- on subjects from how to prepare an onglette graver to pave setting, etc.)..Semanticity has no bearing on the context, in general, of what one individual is sharing with another individual in hopes of a friendly exchange of information without ever considering that an individual may have to defend what they have shared here.... format, semantics, and stylistics should not be an issue on Orchid..neither should mention of non-native speakers of english trying to get help or information here ever be approached...diversity exists, many languages exist, many opinions exist: if you haven't the intelligence to extract the essence of a non-native speaker's question, then the amicable exchange that is the point of the Orchid forum, is turned into a euro-centric elitist clique...of which how one expresses their questions is more important or weightier than the courage to just ask to the best of one's ability..R.E.Rourke ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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