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From: R . E . Rourke Date: Mon Jun 04 05:47:24 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Copper (100Cu) melts at 1063 C Hard Silver Solder at about 750 c Metal firing temps in an enameling kiln: for Cu 1082 C .925 Ag 893 C For copper one must anneal to cherry red first,air cool and water quench.let it dry 100%. I would suggest nitric Acid for the initial preperatory pickle at a ratio of about 1:4, then a bit diluted for dissoving scale ( if you have not put a firecoat on to protect the non-joint parts of the metal) after soldering.).Ordinarily a gap is the sign of incomplete or poor fitting, so double check your joins for perfect fits.It is better to take the time to get it right in the beginning than having to re-do it. Not having the slightest clue as to whether you are using transparent or opaque enamels,or are using the wet or dry technique -if not both- and presuming you have prepared the glass well in distilled water until clear, you may consider torch melting the enamel onto the copper using a tripod to allow heat to encase the piece,but not melt it as a kiln would do if above 816 C. thoroughly stone the glass working coarse to fine, then refire to bring up a glossy finish ( if that's what you're after)..For a matte finish try dilute hydrochloric acid instead of refiring. Copper paste solder may be the answer in your case. as opposed to silver solder..due to the sheer size of your pieces that your are attempting to connect..regular silver solder strikes me as incorrect.,not to mention the flux is already in the copper paste type solder so the flux you are using for Ag may bear on the problem too! ( alternatively make your own enamelling solder ( 6 g fine silver to 1.5 g copper- no zinc, no anything else.roll out thin or draw into a wire and mark clearly the grade and purpose) Make sure you clean the joins in between the attempts as well as you can (sand them perhaps with a very fine grit paper or film in addition to a nitric acid dip).I'm not sure why acetylene and O2 have not worked..check your regulator pressure(?) if it's correct, try MAPP brand gas and oxygen as it achieves a slightly higher temp than acetylene.. with propane you would best have a second person holding an additional torch on the piece- even then it probably will not give you the results you need...the main consideration is a Reducing flame - or about half of the length from the tip of the torch to the end of the flame,oxidising flames are of no value n soldering enameled pieces together. hope at least there is a grain of something usable here..if not there are a number of excellent enamelling books out there, one that might be specific to your needs is"Enameling onCopper and other Metals" by Thomas e.Thompson,c.1950's or "Enamels and Enameling" by Randau, both are probablyout of print but available on Alibris.com or ABEbooks.com R.E.Rourke ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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