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From: Trevor F
Date: Tue Apr 10 04:58:35 2007
 
     
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>     Most alloy patents are just that a claim for the rights to a range
>     of constituent elements not for the method of their use as well. 

    Not at all true, as I clearly indicated in my post a couple of days
    ago. 

    Alloy patent holders will often go so far as to claim _what_ is made
    from the alloy ("ornamental objects" et al), which I think anyone
    would interpret as superseding _how_ you made the thing. 

    I seriously wonder what you guys are on about. As we've seen alloy
    patents cover the map in terms of what they claim and how they claim
    it. We've already seen good reasons why it's a fool's game for people
    who know little or nothing about the legalities of patents -- myself
    included -- to assume they do and start making judgments on whether
    this or that patent meets their approval. And there's no good reason
    on this earth to assume that the AS patent holder(s) have any
    interest in what we artisans are doing with it or intend to keep us
    from doing it. 

    Basically few people in this discussion actually _know_ what they're
    talking about when it comes to these patent documents and they're
    doing so in heavy, doom-laden voices. Where's the beef? 

>     ... but if you were to set up a manufacturing business using
>     diffusion bonding of AS I bet you would be hearing from his
>     lawyers. 

    If you were such a manufacturer and you did as you described and you
    stamped your stuff with the AS logo and you called it "Argentium
    Silver" and you were doing so in great volume I do think the lawyers
    might be calling you to ask if you've got a license from ASCo
    (Argentium Silver Company) to do so. Their licensing agreements
    specifically target large-volume users and specifically does not cite
    the small timers like most all of us. 

    I think the situation is much more like this: if any of us buys
    Argentium Silver from a licensed manufacturer and/or dealer I'll bet
    you're free to do whatever you want with it. Of course it's best if
    we follow the recommended procedures and so forth but really, who's
    going to know or care? If we start shipping $100,000 plus a year of
    AS product then yes, maybe it's time to talk to the ASCo people about
    full licensing per their licensing agreements. And the problem is? 

Cheers,
Trevor F.
in The City of Light
Visit TouchMetal.com at http://www.touchmetal.com
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