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From: James White Date: Sun Apr 08 06:55:22 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Essentially Trevor is right, the worry over the patent claims is exaggerated and misplaced. There are two sides of the coin and there are reasons why they are the way they are as, I hope, will be clear in a minute. But, also remember, IANAL so if there is any requirement that YOU need legal advice, please seek it ASAP from qualified legal counsel. On the patenting side of the coin there is a principle that says (and I paraphrase since I don't have time to dig out the exact language) "any claim that claims all the elements of an allowed (or in litigation, valid) claim and then some more elements THAT ARE NOT/EITHER OR NOVEL NOR NON-OBVIOUS is by definition novel and non-obvious ANYWAY. In other words if the claim for the metal formulation stands then so does the claim for that metal formulation PLUS any other common method of use or thing made of it, etc. Likely that seems counter-intuitive until... The other side of the coin is patent enforcement and rights. On this side (and again I paraphrase) there is a principle that the inventor is entitled to one and only one bite of the revenues from their invention, when they've gotten their bite they've exhausted their rights to any compensation from activities/sales down the line even if they ACTUALLY INFRINGE other claims of the patent (even additional patents!). How does the inventor get that bite? Generally they ain't but two ways, make and sell the root claimed metal (in this case) or license the making and selling of it. Certainly they could "do it all" and make the metal and make all the jewelry and sell it but trying to do that they quickly run into human limitations---the net result of which they would make far less money if they try to do it all themselves than if they get their (initial little) bite and let others get their piece of the pie too. Peter is wisely taking the former course. So, if you buy your Argentium Silver (AS) from a the patent owner or licensed source or a seller who has bought from either, etc., (no matter how long the chain or what the markup in between) then Peter has gotten his bite, he is entitled to no more regardless of what you do with that AS. (Of course if you are outside a country where Peter has patents on AS or methods of its use or finished products from it, then you are free to make AS yourself or buy it from UNLICENSED sources outside those countries where there are enforceable patents.) So why would Peter take the little bite of a small licensing royalty, say 5% of AS wholesale price (maybe 60 cents an ounce--raw guess), at the beginning of the chain yet still claim in his patents all the downstream AS products/processes too if he isn't going to get a bigger bite by soaking you for 5% of the final product retail price (say a lucrative $5 on a $100 retail price jewelry piece or $50 on a $1000 piece)? Scenario 1. You, the foolish jeweler, don't want to pay the extra 60 cents an ounce PLUS whatever his licensee extracts from you for HIS OWN piece of the pie (if he can't make more via AS than raw silver then he won't even play the game--unless he's "business" crazy, which happens). You decide that rather than paying the (wild guess) $2-$3 extra per ounce you STILL want the AS benefits which have MORE value to you than plain silver but you would like to pocket that extra $2-$3 for yourself too. So you make your own AS (after all the patent explains how one of your skill can do it) and also you make your $1000 piece. Likely you begin to see where this is going:-). You sell your $1000 piece, pocket the extra $2-$3 with a smile------then the cease and desist letter from Peter's attorney arrives in the mail asking for you to either quit making and selling what Peter's patent rights cover and also to fork over $300 (you've not in a position to negotiate and this is a "one time" charge really) as Peter's compensation plus legal fees... Just one hour of an attorney's time is going to cost you maybe the savings on making your own AS for 50-100 ounces or so. Hmmm..., real smart move, saving the $2-$3. However, being a total idiot---and ignorant of patent law too---you decide all Peter is entitled to is the $2-$3 his manufacturer would have gotten from an original AS sale. You plunk down $2,000 to an attorney who will fight for you (cash up front, of course), give Peter only his due, no more! Since you already knew about the patent, and provided you're willing to shell out the $30,000 to $50,000 (or more if you or Peter have "crafty" lawyers) that it takes just to get the case to court, the judge or jury happily award Peter "willful infringement" treble damages at the $300 level (the jewelry made from AS claim, not the root AS metal claim), i.e., $900 on your $1000 piece---and the judge caps that with full legal costs too---a mere $700,000 for Peter's hard working attorneys (documented billable hours! at LITIGATION rates!!) Scenario 2. You the crafty jeweler, buy from or make your AS outside countries where Peter has a patent then, since where he has patents is really where the market is, you import it into (or export it to) a country where there is a patent. (The right to stop AS crossing the border into a country where Peter has an enforceable patent is one of his patent rights.) Let's guess, which is Peter going to want to sue you (or the importer/fabricator/seller) for in his infringement suit, the 60 cents per ounce of AS or some reasonable compensation on the finished piece value as his patent claim entitles him to? This patent game has been worked out in the courts and the legislatures for over 5 centuries. I strongly urge you not to try to play it with some half baked, ill-informed, personal "invention" of what patent law is. James E. White Inventor, Marketer, and Author of "Will It Sell? How to Determine If Your Invention Is Profitably Marketable (Before Wasting Money on a Patent)" Info Sites: www.willitsell.com www.inventorhome.com, www.idearights.com www.taletyano.com www.booksforinventors.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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