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From: R . E . Rourke Date: Fri Mar 23 06:26:52 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== try using medium white gold solder, or look at your flow points and see wich is closer to the melting point of the silver ( are you using .925 or.999?), you always run the risk of the silver melting before you hit the flow point of the 14k.so go with a lower temp flowing solder that wont absorb the silver.. but- palladium being in the platinum group requires high temperatures to bond, so you may need to invest in a MAPP and O2 bernzomatic set-up for about 49 bucks at your local lowes or home depot. It'll melt anything down readily. .and if you can't afford a full tank set up (a regulator, hosing for MAPP or acetylene and a "y "connection fitting for your O2 tank and if you like a flashback arrestor, or at lest a check valve, and safety lenses because of the damage it can do to your eyesight ) for platinum and melting then the bernzomatic may be your answer...oh, even if you opt for the bernzomatic (which has a safety orifice in the attached hose's tip) you still need some didmyum or shaded lenses to protect your eyes as far as pooling of solder you must A) insure all surfaces are clean and grease free B) apply flux ( for what you are doing Batterns or any hydrochloric based liquid seems the better choice to me- you can id that type by the characteristic neon yellowgreen colour they Usually have ) with a clean applicator to the area C) if the solder is pooling it is not grease free or the fit is not tight- solder is not a "filler" or spackle...it will only flow if the two parts being joined are equally heated, so heat your 14k first and keep hitting it with the torch while heating the lower temp. silver which comes into flow range faster than the gold, so you want to make certain that the heating is synchronized, otherwise you'll end up with a ball of silver that has absorbed the solder and not only becomes useless because the piece is now destroyed, but the gold is nowhere near the temp. it should be to enable the solder to flow yet the silver is at or near the melting point of your 14k hard solder..at least that's what i gather from a quick read of the problem...not enough torch heat, unclean joint or applicator, and/or wrong solder grade for the work..if i'm correctly reading it you are using 14k gold, palladium and silver of some sort..which all have differing melt/flow points.. ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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