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From: R . E . Rourke
Date: Fri Mar 02 03:33:07 2007
 
     
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    i have purchased parcels of stones from jtv and loose stones from
    eBay. all are fully returnable after inspection and some are quite
    good values. I have had a few problems dealing with misrepresented
    stones so if you have a question for a seller on eBay be certain to
    express it before bidding. Most sellers resent  the notion of
    canceling the transaction , particularly if they are listing a stones
    or stones fraudulently ( i.e- "genuine Loose 10mm Alexandrite
    ,brilliant cut" ) and the stone turns out to be lab created which was
    not mentioned  any advertising/listing the seller entered into
    descriptive info. Ebay saw it as i did..genuine =genuine..and the
    seller was forced to refund my money remove my non-paying bidder mark
    and retract their negative feedback..some sellers of stones are
    simply jerks that buy wholesale lots of miscuts, chipped, fractured
    and flawed stones then resell single stones or similarly sized
    stones of a single variety as a 'parcel' those sellers haven't a
    clue. there are however a few loose stone sellers on EBay that are in
    fact with scruples- that know stones and list them at fair prices in
    detail and with reasonable representations. I bought some sea blue
    diamonds from a seller in Africa that had wonderful pictures of the
    ".11ct" stones well, the deal was great, the shipping fair ( always
    check shipping charges prior to any eBay trade and steer away from
    sellers not offering pay pal  )- the product when i received it was
    .011 ct stones so minuscule i could barely set em, and it turned out
    the photos were with a high powered stereoscopic zoom
    microscope...pay pal forced them to send stones as advertised. So be
    sure to ask your seller some question you deem representative of a
    gem dealers knowledge prior to bidding..they either know their stuff
    or not..With the proliferation of really fraudulent sellers it is
    wise to always check one out beforehand. i have had the best stones
    coming out of India, Thailand and Africa- most others seem to be
    resells from JTV parcels.As for jewelery TV they offer some good
    deals on parcels of smallish stones in run-of-the-mill varieties;
    almandine ,pyrope,and hessonite garnets,amethysts, tourmaline,
    jasper's,carnelians, turquoises, citrines ( true and heat
    treated),sapphires,topaz, etc. all returnable, and
    refundable..generally both venues offer both good deals and really
    awful rip-offs..do your homework and read the postage policies on
    EBay before bidding and you can often score some excellent stones
    with a last minute bid..and by the way, 8.00 is reasonable from
    Thailand- more is not reasonable and some sellers list  under many
    company names. If you suspect that they are doing so, ask, if you
    plan on taking advantage of any of the combined shipping over x
    number of days offers, as there is a good chance that they are in
    fact coming from the same location under a different seller name-
    they are not quick to admit this, but with a bit of prodding will
    concede to combining all items into one posting. If you find a seller
    fraudulently listing stones please report them to ebay - i am trying
    to get them to set up guidelines for listing gemstones that eliminate
    any potential for misleading the buying public including restricting
    the  use of the terms genuine, authentic and certified as descriptors
    for lab created stones, and other commonly used deceitful
    terminologies and 'certifications' from authorities that simply don't
    exist. though it is the buyers duty to know what they are purchasing
    , repercussions from fraudulently listing stones are the sellers
    resposibility to make right. Sellers that use and accept PayPal offer
    a little more protection than those that don't . Paisa  is the Indian
    branch of PayPal if you are looking at buying stones from Indian
    sellers. If you get a parcel of stones that you have been charged
    international postage rates/ high costs for stones supposedly being
    mailed to you from overseas, and the parcel you receive was cancelled
    at a post office in Iowa, I urge you to contact the seller and
    request a refund of other than actual postage and report this to
    ebay. this is an emerging scam; the buyer agrees to pay let's say
    15.00 for postage and handling and insurance from Jaipur India and
    you receive an an envelope with a small zip lock bag, unpadded, and
    without insurance on the package  which was posted from Chicago..that
    equals misrepresentation at least and more likely fraud...so the
    seller makes over thirteen bucks mailing you a stone or stones
    weighing less than an ounce in addition to the price paid for your
    win/purchase...Another tip is to ask that the seller pack your stones
    with the utmost care before posting them to you to avoid recieving
    mdse. that has been chipped in transit due to really bad
    handling(which indicates sellers that are not gem dealers) and is
    therefore unusable , has to be returned and then becomes a hassle in
    the long run.
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