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From: John Donivan Date: Sun Feb 11 05:24:17 2007 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Take a deep breath, sit down, get comfy. I'll say that I'm a good amateur chemist - any pros want to speak up, I'll certainly defer to that. And that I don't actually know this off the top of my head, it's research. And the easy answer is I don't know what your blue crystals are. You have acetic acid and hydrogen peroxide - those are your reactive agents. Those put together under certain conditions make peracetic acid, which is an organic peroxide. Peracetic acid is linked to polymerization, benazene, alkynes (acetylene), and alkenes (methyl ethyl ketones). In other words, that organic peroxide steps across the line from simple inorganic chemistry into much more. What this means is pretty simple: if you put iron into acetic acid, you'll get iron acetate, which is red. If you add boron (boric acid) which has a green flame test, well, that's what's called a metalloid - it can go AC or DC depending on the circumstances. Plus it's trivalent. You get into boranes, adducts, perborates (from/with H2O2) Then you throw in hydrogen peroxide, which is just aching to get rid of that extra oxygen (H2O2), and you have quite the soup mix - an organic acid with a peroxide with a trivalent metalloid and iron, which is chemically versatile to begin with. It's well beyond my ability to sort out, but I'd say you're looking at a more complex molecule than something like "iron acetate" - more like "iron dihydrogen tetraborate", which I just made up, that's not a real thing, most likely. I will say that acetates tend towards the blues and greens, though. Otherwise that should make it all very clear, right? HAHAHAHA....... http://www.donivanandmaggiora.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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