[Jewelry making - Article 00195] - Re: [Orchid] CAD/CAM - What works for you?

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David,

    Matrix has many limitations, if you havent found them it means you
    are not using the software to its full extent, I suggest you
    challenge yourself and your software rather than just pump this
    forum full of your hot air. You havent found them and so deny their
    existence yet in the same breath say that they are going to fix the
    limitations is Matrix, Bravo Bravo. 

    I used to be one of you, A matrix user who because he had invested
    so much time and money in this software, I waved the rhino flag to
    make myself feel better about making my investment. The folly of it
    all. 

    Sure 3Design has limitations but you are wrong. Its not a matter of
    I can do to what you can and visaversa. Its who has to do less work
    to get a better result. 3Design is so simple, easy interface I can
    do the same as you, I can do more work in a shorter time span and
    achieve a better result. 

    By the way 3Design can do more than matrix, can do filigree with
    ease, text on surface. Matrix has a lame attempt at these functions.
    3Design has help function when you run mouse over tool icon it tells
    you what is does so no need to read through books, its all at your
    finger tips. 

    Quote "If you really mastered that program in 4-6 weeks you truly
    are a genius, or had a previous cad background. That is NOT the usual
    occurance for those who purchase a CAD/CAM program. There is a steep
    learning curve involved NO MATTER WHAT PROGRAM YOU CHOOSE. The amount
    of time you put in the program directly determines your success or
    failure with it. MOST people who do cad work did NOT learn it in 4-6
    weeks" 

    This shows how little you have investigated 3Design and how little
    you know. Software does not have to become more complex to be more
    advanced. 3Design is much more advanced than any other jewellery
    software on the market and is much easier to learn, Granted I came
    from a matrix background but after only 3 Days of training I was
    creating more pieces of a higher quality in a much quicker time than
    it would take me in Rhino, 3 Days. It took me about six months to
    get the basics in Rhino and that was after doing 2 year course in 3D
    graphics & Cad/Cam at University. 

    3Design is unique in the 3d industry. Not only is it more advanced
    that its competitors, Not only is it easier to use, Not only is it
    more ergonomic, Not only does it run smoother and is a much more
    stable platform, Not only does it produce a higher quality STL file,
    but the software is PARAMETRIC. If this is the only defining feature
    then its still miles ahead of the rest. 

    PARAMETRIC for newcomers is masically a history tree that tracks
    tools used. e.g. So you make a ring from step 1 to step 20, you can
    change a step at any time say step 10, any other program you have to
    undo, undo, undo with 3Design just find the step make a change and
    the software recalculates the whole design based upon those changes.
    This means the more work you do with 3Design the less work you have
    to do. I know have a libary of over two hundred design, customers
    can just walk into the store, pick a design, I then resize the ring
    and the settings make an alteration or two and within fiveminutes I
    can show customer and send file of for RP. 

    In regards to tutorials, Yes Vision Numeric has about 10. Thats all
    they seem to need they cover all the tools and functions. 

    Rhino needs over sixty tutorials, Why? becasue the software is
    difficult to use, its hard to articulate what the function will
    actually achieve, the interface is not intuitive, Its not in
    Jewellery terms. 

    I do know of a few users in the UK that use 3Design, but 3Design is
    aimed at a higher end of jewellers than your average Retail outlet
    or backyard designers. 3Design is aimed at high end jewellers and
    large scale manufacturers and as I have found this is where the
    product is placed. I do not know of a casting or Rp company that has
    not converted or is not considering conversion. 

    I have never had a problem with Vision Numeric staff they have
    always been very helpful, but I delt directly with the HQ in France. 

    There is a big difference in culture between "Gemvision
    Rhino/Matrix" and "Vision Numeric 3Design", Vision Numeric know the
    limits of there product and the technology in general and do not
    talk about other products, in fact when ever I asked them to compare
    3Design with another they said consult the other company they no
    more about thier products. 

    "Rhino/Matrix" did not shutup about the competiton they spent over
    an hour of my demo trying to bag out 3Design then moved on to
    artcam. As far as I am concearned "Gemvision" do not have enough
    positive points about thier software to talk about so they try
    belittle the competition. The fact they lied on several occasions
    about the competition lost them my business. 

    3Design and Rhino, it does not take a genius to see the huge
    advantage 3Design has over Rhino. 3Design is the leading solution for
    3D Jewellery creation and for good reason. Have a half hour demo of
    3Design and a Half hour demo of Matrix and you will agree to, its
    completly obvious.
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