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From: Karen Christians Date: Thu Nov 30 05:35:10 2006 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Sue, You have asked a very good question, and it's one I get here a lot at Metalwerx. The budding artist who is making more and more jewelry, selling at more shows, etc. Yes, it is a headache, but it doesn't have to be. Here is my advice for what's it worth. Ask yourself, what do you want and where do you want be? I started making jewelry and selling it at local craft shows around Boston. I didn't make very much money, but I knew that it was something I wanted to do. So the answer to the first question was easy. I wanted to work with metal and knew that for a career, that was the way to go. The answer to the second question was that I wanted to be involved in metals, either educating or making it for the rest of my life. I started as a sole proprieter, getting a tax id and filling out the quarterly form. There were a lot of zeros in the beginning for income, then a few hundred dollars and then one quarter I made a thousand! What I didn't know and what became a perk, is since I had a tax id number, when I made the transition of leaving my job and entering art school, that four years of art school was tax deductable. There were perks here. Since I was making a complete career change, the decision of getting a tax ID for me, was the right one. If you are married, having a second business with a tax id is fine. You don't even have to make money at it each year. You can lose money every year. The IRS wants to know you are trying and there is criteria that they want to see proving which separates the hobbyist from a business. Some of those criteria are: 1) Are you spending money on advertising? If you are willing to cough up the bucks for print ad, then you are NOT a hobbyist. It's expensive stuff. 2) Are your expenses exceeding your income in a manner which is suspect? Spending money on capital equipment, supplies, etc., is fine. Claiming $30K on entertainment expenses is not. 3) Rejection letters from shows. Believe it or not, rejection letters are your friend. True, it is sad not being juried into a show, but the rejection letter is proof to the IRS that you are trying. 4) Are you building a business or a hobby? Trying to write off your vacations to Hawaii and saying you were on business the whole time is another flag for the IRS. Attending trade shows like Tucson, SNAG, Clasp, MJSA, etc., is not. These are completely legitimate as is all your expenses incurred attending it. There are many more deductions of course, but when you feel comfortable ponying up the bucks to pay for a CPA, rather than Turbo Tax, you are ready for the tax ID. You can get the tax ID, stay with it for a few years and test the waters and decide if this is the right thing for you. There are the hassles of filling out the Tax stuff even for your CPA. You need to take inventory each year of your finished goods, unfinished goods, scrap and in process work. For work that is finished sitting in your inventory, you have to pay the tax on the retail price (if you are selling it yourself). Unfinished goods are your findings, wire, stones, etc. That scrap metal that is hanging around? Well you didn't pay tax on it when you purchased it, and unless you have it refined, it still has value. Tools? Usually this are deppreaciated which is great tax wise, until you have to replace them. Work in process? Well, there is a price to those too. I usually take the retail and figure the percentage. Are they 50 percent complete, 75 percent, 25 percent, etc. There are perks and there are downsides. Getting a Tax ID isn't just, "wow, I can take advantage of all those vendors out there", it's a business jungle out there and you have a responsibility to tend to your business garden. Learning the nuances of business is continous process of learning, going back, doing it again, learning the right way. Now I am directing a business with lots of overhead, cost per hour, percentage of overhead per square foot, etc. It's intimidating. However, you learn along the way and there are great people out there to help. Just keep asking questions to get you to the next step. You'll know when you are ready. Me? I just keep asking myself these questions every day. Is it still what I want? Am I still having fun? Am I where I want to be. When you answer yes to all of them, you are doing the right thing for yourself. You can learn about taxes. Passion? Either you have it or you don't. If you have the passion, the rest is easy. Hope this helps. -k M E T A L W E R X School for Jewelry and the Metalarts 50 Guinan St. Waltham, MA 02451 781 891 3854 www.metalwerx.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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