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From: James White
Date: Mon Nov 27 05:39:11 2006
 
     
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>     about Yurman's stealing an ancient technique, using it to
>     create a "body of work," getting it under a protective copyright,
>     and thereby creating a total monopoly on it, and hindering others
>     from doing anything that he claims infringes on his right to be the
>     only one to use this process. Anything that even remotely resembles
>     his work is register a trademark (Yurman's pieces aren't just
>     copyrighted, they are REGISTERED copyright). Once that happens, any
>     other judge is likely to just rubber stamp it. Precedent and all
>     that. I'd say that the piece IS an exact copy, even by accident,
>     you're sunk. I how can a person ever even BE permitted to
>     copyright something that isn't even original to begin with? David
>     Yurman has what is known as a Trade Dress Patent on his cable/stone
>     designs. It is a patent applied to a body of work whose signature
>     look has achieved recognition as belonging to a certain individual,
>     distinct from all others. It is not a design copyright for a single
>     piece, but for a larger, recognizable body of work. 

    Baloney 

>         worked in Hollywood and knew Spielberg socially. The law firm
>     basically spent their time trolling for these kinds of cases,
>     hoping to frighten people into paying up. Spielberg recieved
>     nothing from away, like my friend had to do. And I am given to
>     understand that there are law firms that exist solely to do this
>     kind of thing. 

    Fact! But BAR ASSOCIATIONS will NOT take any action against such
    firms WITHOUT DOCUMENTED FORMAL COMPLAINTS! (They are lawyers, after
    all!!!) 

    And yes, Virginia, Hanuman DOES censor without inserting or
    tags---AND IF HE DOES IT ON THIS ONE I'LL SEND TO THE LIST THE PROOF
    (or "maybe" he's "recently" changed his policy or "occasionally" he
    "forgets," it's still censorship which he is ENTITLED to do since
    it's his list--and assuming sponsors condone it). He does it whenever
    someone points out in clear terms (and in an isolated paragraph among
    otherwise very valuable material) that an IA has spoken--and too many
    do speak on this forum (witness the recent "acid" discussion). It's
    very easy to tell an I from an A from an IA, if YOU don't know how you
    shouldn't even think about posting and YOU shouldn't EVER use any of
    what anyone says because you may, TO YOUR HARM, pick the IA's
    baloney. 

    An I occasionally (BUT RARELY) thinks they know more than they do
    and posts a clear error. They happily and quickly apologize when it
    is pointed out and they ALWAYS use solid verified reliable sourceS to
    confirm their error before posting their retraction. An IA FREQUENTLY
    posts BALONEY then follows-up any corrections with TONS MORE baloney.
    A real, utter A posts a wide mix of valid and baloney and DOESN'T
    CARE which is which then piles on heaps more whenever they are
    questioned. 

    The internet and forums such as this will, over time, likely help
    squeeze down the IAs and As to much more manageable levels than what
    now exist in society BUT ONLY IF THE CENSORS ****QUIT**** censoring
    the justifiably irate posts that point out IAs unambiguously. Even
    the ignorant censors that cannot tell the difference will be weeded
    out as new lists form to counter ignorant censorship... 

    I again encourage anyone and everyone to STUDY my www.idearights.com
    web site regarding the distinctions between copyright, trademark, and
    patent. (If you have questions or need clarifications, please ask.)
    Those FACTS have been examined repeatedly by VERY IRATE LAWYERS
    (whose ethics violations I have publicly lambasted) and no errors
    have been found. Until you KNOW, and KNOW YOU KNOW, that stuff cold
    you should not be posting ANYthing you THINK you know on the subject
    to the forum. 

    If, and I have no doubt, Yurman has indeed not lost a COURT case it
    is certainly because his attorneys carefully pick the ones, usually,
    I suspect, blatant, they really should win. As far as his attorneys
    doing unethical things, such as burning hours and going on fishing
    expeditions, that too is undoubtedly a fact---but you MUST complain
    FORMALLY to the people that can correct that, not to jewelers! 

James E. White
Inventor, Marketer, and Author of "Will It Sell? How to Determine If
Your Invention Is Profitably Marketable (Before Wasting Money on a
Patent)" Info Sites: www.willitsell.com www.inventorhome.com,
www.idearights.com www.taletyano.com www.booksforinventors.com

 
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