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From: Sebastien Bailard Date: Wed Nov 15 04:15:06 2006 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Allen, I had crossposted the initial question to the hobbicast AT yahoogroups forum. Here is Doug Allen's reply of how he does it, which I found quite informative: As a knifemaker, blacksmith, and, yes, hobbycaster, I have fiddled a bit with steel casting. It is quite possible to do, even on a small scale, but you'll have a few more isues to deal with compared with the more usual aluminum and brass casting. First off, you'll need to figure out what kind of steel to use. There are literally thousands, ranging from sible low carbon plain steels, almost purely iron with only a few trace elements to high-speed complex alloys, where iron plays second fiddle to vanadium, chromium, cobolt, and other exotics. I cast a simple stainless steel, 304 I believe, for a guard, but I have also done a bit of wootz experementation (wootz is a high-carbon semi-cast steel that has pronounced carbon dentricles which make a wonderfu "watered silk" pattern in the final pie) and have studied enough ferrous metalurgy that I feel comfortable expanding beyond what I've actually done. Iron has a great afinity for carbon, and the more carbon there in in a steel, vice other alloying agents, the lower the melting temperature. Hence, cast iron is easier to ast than pure iron, as it is several hundred degrees lower in temperature when poured -- hence the popularity to this day for cast iron of around 3-4% carbon. Most high carbon steel, such as used for knives, is around 1%, and most low carbon is around .1% (think car bodies and other sheet steels that will be deeply deformed during fabrication). One aspect of this carbon affinity is that the longer it sits in contact with carbon, such as a clay-graphite crucible, the more carbon it will dissolve out, both changing the carbon content and lowering the temperature of the melt. But carbon can also be burned out, so if you leave it exposed while molten to an oxidizing atmosphere, you'll end up with carbon loss. So, first you'll need a setup that can get your melt relatively quickly to the pour temperature, while keeping the steel away from atmosphere. For this, I used a small silicon carbide crucible with my steel stacked inside, along with some borax as a flux, and the whole thing sealed with a bit of kaowool and furnace cement, with a small hole (about 1 mm) left to prevent gas build up. To get it hot, I used a propane forge, blown, which I sealed up except for a small exit vent. This is similar to what I used for my wootz experements, and which I've seen other smiths use for various steel castings and wootz ingot melts. To cast, I used an oil-bonded sand mold (commercial petrobond from our Sponsor) with plenty of sprue, venting, and so on -- molten steel is incandescantly ho, and the oil bonded sand does produce a bit of smoke and outgassing. In fact, if I were to do steel casting in any quantity, I'd go with ceramic shell or greensand (bentonite based)to avoid the whole smoke and stink issue. Even in thermonuclear toaster such as my forge it takes a while to melt. I had about a pound of steel, and iirc it took a good couple of hours before it just sloshed when shook -- for quite a while I could hear/feel a lump of something floating in the melt. When you open the crucible, be prepared for sparks. Even with the low-carbon there was quite the sparkler effect when pouring, and at a demo where we had a crucible break during a wootz smelt it looked like quite the fireworks display. Use a fqaceshield, heat-resistant clothing, and all other precautions when dealing with molten, buring, hot stuff. Also keep in mind, if you're going to be casting high carbon steel, that if it cools too fast, it may shatter under the stresses. OTOH, if you cool steel down too slow you'll get a lot of grain growth, which can only be removed by forging or really painstaiking heat treatment. Casting steel seems to be a lot more challenging than bronze or silver; I've decided to put the idea on hold for a while until I have more experience. (Unreleated but cool aside: casting a pewter stool at the beach: http://www.pingmag.jp/2006/11/10/tokyo-design-week-2006-report Regarding finding someone to cast your design, I don't know. I would check your local dental labs and blacksmiths. There may be forums or websites where you could put the job up for a bid; I would ask for leads to such job boards heRe: http://www.anvilfire.com/slacktub/ and maybe ask the moderator of the internetdentalforum.net Tim Lane, although I'm not sure if that's a particularly good way of looking into it. You'll probably have more success asking the swordsmith Rick Barrett, who did the legwork for this when he found someone to cast the steel pommel for his sword LongClaw: http://www.barrettcustomknives.com/contemp_1 I'll forward your email to him. 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