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From: Trevor Date: Thu May 04 22:16:11 2006 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Hello Janet. > Any tips for soldering Argentium jumprings into a chain? I am > using Argentium Hard solder, but it doesn't want to flow until the > underlying metal looks melted. Are you successfully using this solder and your Argentium Sterling (AS) on other projects and it works but doesn't seem to work here or is this basically your first go at it and you're having problems? I ask because it sounds like a flux problem to me. If that is the case I'd advise checking the archives for at least one if not more discussions we've had about fluxes and AS. There's also a post on my blog entitled "Marty's flux tests" that might also be of interest. But if you've soldered with these materials elsewhere and are suddenly running into troubles that theory doesn't hold up so well. There are a couple things I think worth mentioning though they don't directly address you problem. 1: AS Hard solder has a working temp very close to that of Medium grade regular sterling solder so you might want to watch the heat a bit (it definitely sounds like you're overheating your chain links). 2: AS Hard grade solder has had a tendency to "ghost" (leave little solder chip "scars" due to partial melting). In other words it can be a little bit tricky to learn how to get the same results you're used to elsewhere. In other words you might be getting some solder flow but not complete melt. Contrary to one's intuition more heat is NOT the solution here, but indirect heating might be. Assuming you decide for whatever reason that you don't want to investigate the flux angle on this problem (IOW, experimenting with fluxes to find one that produces better results for you) I'd suggest going in either of two possible directions. Either drop down to Argentium Medium solder (there's really no good reason not to, the joints are just as strong and the color match is virtually indistinguishable from the Hard) OR work on the fusing angle. I think Cythia Eid has reported quite satisfactory results with fusing AS, as have others (Marty again? See his blog at http://argexp.blogspot.com/). > I tried reheating the fused links and separating them, but they > broke into pieces. Two things come to mind here. The first is that if your AS is brittle (once cooled) then that's a very good indication that you've SERIOUSLY over-cooked it in which case you might need to back off on the heat a good bit (probably means don't heat so much and for so long). The other is that AS does not like to be moved about when it is very hot (reddish or pink in color), it will come apart in just the manner you've observed. If you're trying to separate those links you might want to consider sawing out the faulty joint. I realize this may not be a suitable solution in some cases but I've found it worthwhile on occasion. Hopefully some of the above will help you in addressing this problem. Be patient. You're learning to use a new alloy so some un-learning and re-learning is par for the course. Cheers, Trevor F. in The City of Light Visit TouchMetal.com at http://www.touchmetal.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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