[Jewelry making - Article 00928] - Re: [Orchid] Edinburgh Etch comment

[jesse Brennan]

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    I sent this off list to Alice since Orchids seems to be doing
    excessive editing lately: 

    This is a big statement in error-- The floor wax suggested and used
    in current printmaking practice is FUTURE an acrylic. There are other
    similar finishes. There is no bleach. Bleach and ammonia do NOT
    create mustard gas. Bleach with ammonia does liberate free chlorine
    which is an irritant at best. ammonia does break down waxes and is
    used to remove wax and acrylic resists. 

    here is the MSDS for FUTURE: 

    http://tinyurl.com/p5qoz 

    Information from some" guy" at radio shack is not from a reliable
    source. It gets in archives and is wrong. You are doing others a
    disservice by posting stuff without checking your facts! 

    Ammonia with copper forms a complex ion in solution with a very
    intense blue color.

    ADDITIONAL COMMENTS 

    In a later note to me Alice told me the origin of the information
    being an ammonia spill in a grocery with a lot of panic. There would
    have been no chlorine release but there would have been a lot of
    ammonia odor. Unfortunately information gets misinterpreted and
    spread out of context. This is an unfortunate sign of the times--
    environmental activists and terror,d other misinformed scaremongers
    and the fearful are doing the people a real disservice. It won't go
    away. 

    You have to check out your information before posting it-- Once in
    an archive it can be a basis for escalating miss-information that is
    supposedly legitimate. 

    The internet has made more correct information available easily but
    this gets overwhelmed by this kind of stuff. Don't believe everything
    you hear and definitely not on internet groups unless it references
    what is a legitimate source. I always try to include substantiating
    sources for my posts, I believe this is necessary on a responsible
    site., 

    Alice has sent me a correction to the Mustard gas statement but just
    referenced another one showing it was chlorine--- It wouldn't have
    been. If a bottle of bleach and a bottle of ammonia were spilled
    together there would have been some free chlorine. not nice stuff --
    warnings are on the bottles,. Bleach doesn't linger nor does ammonia.
    The event would not have been as described. I am not upset with
    Alice. 

    Orchid recently did not honor my comments on oxygen and fuel gas
    safety including leak detection. but you did repeatedly post some
    inadequate information. In this case I backed up Peter Rowe's ( who I
    greatly respect and do not dispute) comments with a few additions
    that were not in conflict with Peter. 

    In this case I am an definite Authority, a Chemical engineer with
    over 40 years experience in the industry involved including safety
    and incident investigations specifically on Oxygen and the other
    gases. 

Jesse
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