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From: Andrew Jeavons
Date: Thu Apr 13 20:56:37 2006
 
     
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>     This isn't the issue at all in this discussion. I'm not price
>     driven at all but I still understand the need to have a supplier
>     who is dealing with the trade and not at a basically retail level.
>     Non professionals simply should not have access to some of the
>     wholesale 

    I don't like being undercut by a competitor who outsources to <>, but
    I can hardly complain to Microsoft about them supplying tools to
    them, because they aren't US programmers and so shouldn't be allowed
    to buy from them. If someone undercuts you on cost I believe it's
    called competition, isn't that the basis of free trade ? 

>     discounts that professionals are able to access. And quite frankly
>     I findthe argument about software design to be completely specious.
>     You design software, you don't make a product that has material
>     cost. 

    But it does have very significant costs, material or otherwise, it
    has labour as a direct cost and a bunch of other costs, which are
    just as expensive as materials. 

>     The hardware producers in the computer business (like Apple or
>     Sony) don't wholesale their product to the general public. Why
>     should jewelry supply houses? 

    You don't seem to undertstand what Apple and Sony do - they sell the
    equivalent of finished jewelry - a consumer item. It has components
    they buy from suppliers. Their suppliers sell them the components at
    wholesale. If I go to the computer component suppliers and say "give
    me 500 motherboards", they say "wire us the money and they are
    yours". They don't check that I am a "real" computer manufacturer,
    they may check my credit but that is all. Free trade, they sell to
    anyone with money, they don't try to vet who buys their products. So
    I think your argument here is invalid.

    I have to say that I don't think the underlying motivation for people
    who want Stuller to only supply professionals is just the problem of
    undercutting by hairdressers. It's more about not being looked up to
    and recognised as special I think. Not something a Stuller account
    will ever solve.....therapy maybe?

Andrew
Andrew Jeavons
www.andrewjeavons.com
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