[Jewelry making - Article 00066] - Re: [Orchid] Venting about "Designers"

[Paul D. Reilly]

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Lynda,

>     =A0=A0=A0 I agree with you David, my concern was that the guy who po=
sted
>     the rant was so specific about the design that anyone could
>     recognize it. I do think that if you take money from someone they
>     have the right to expect respect 

    I wish you had responded to my posting with some indication that
    it was my post you were referring to. Reading today's post from you
    idicates that it was. I'd like to come to my defense. 

    To begin: I talked to the designer who's work I was referring to
    about the design flaws of the ring a week before I posted and it was
    agreed that the design was not viable in its present form. The
    designer agrees that the 1/4 carater is in danger of getting knocked
    loose in its setting, that the pearl mounting sheet is too thin, and
    that a re-design is in order; but wanted to enter it into the show
    despite that, and time was too short for a re-design. We will be
    working together to re-create the ring with a heavier cross section
    at the mountings which then tapers in thickness to be comfortable on
    the finger and this will be the ring that goes into production for
    sale. 

    I'd also like to point out that this post was not "dump(ing my) ones
    feeling on paid jobs in front of potential competitors". I was
    answering a post I saw that I knew I had a good answer to. Had I been
    "dumping" I would surely have spoken out sooner in the string. I have
    had 30 years experience seeing both good and bad design during my
    jewelry career. For most of this string , I simply deleted the
    majority of the posts without reading them becuase I really don't
    like to hear (read) complaints about who's a designer and who isn't;
    who's good and who isn't, what's good and what isn't. That type of
    post isn't appropriate on this forum. To set the record staight I
    normally don't even try to coach a deisgner, if the design sells and
    it makes the designer and myself a living, then it's got to be good
    enough for something, at any rate. I was merely critiquing this one
    design to answer what appeared to be an honest question of what
    constituted a bad design. 

    That bring me to my ending statement: in order to answer Craig's
    question with any validity, a real life example, rather than a
    hypothetical situation, seemed most appropriate. The ring description
    was given accurately so that the picture of a failed design could be
    envisioned easily by anyone reading the post. If there was no
    accurate description, how could anyone take my personal opinion about
    it and believe that I was pointing out design flaws. I tried in no
    way to deniggrate the designer or the visual design....as I said,
    artiscally it is a beautiful and flowing piece of art; but that it
    had restrictions put on its creation which impaired its function as
    intended, both in gauge and type of metal. I compliment this deigner
    for his past and present accomplishments in this very competitve
    field. I enjoy his art more than most I've worked with over the years
    and I truly believe he will soon be one of the best known designers
    in our country(USA); but, we all have made some errors along our
    repective ways. My post should in no way be construed as a flaw of
    the designer, just a flaw in this one design being referred to.
    Perhaps my post, intended to be helpful but turned into an issue of
    "ethics", is one of my more recent errors. If it was a breach of
    ethics, that was certainly not the post's intent, and an apology from
    me is in order. 

Thanks for letting me vent.

Paul D. Reilly


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