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From: Trevor F Date: Sun Jul 31 20:59:43 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > I am feeling totally confused as to how to use Argentium Silver > now. In my experience it's not a big deal Grace, very few changes should be necessary from the way you normally work sterling silver. But there are some differences, namely: - there's no need to firecoat Argentium Sterling (AS). The purpose of firecoat is to keep the oxygen away from the hot metal and that is totally unnecessary, and somewhat counterproductive, when working with AS. AS likes to react with oxygen and it is good for it todo so. Standard sterling silver _loves_ to react to oxygen and it's generally not a good thing at all. - for the same reasons there is no need to use reducing flames with AS or work on charcoal in order to get a reducing atmosphere. A reducing atmosphere starves the AS of oxygen which, as explained above, you generally don't want to do. > I purchased the argentium from Stuller and I don't recall seeing > anything about having to heat treat it first .... I haven't bought AS from Stuller yet so I don't know what documentation they include when you do but I do know that some folks have reported getting tarnish in the bag or shortly after putting it into use. Whether Stuller mentions it or not this shouldn't happen unless the metal has been oxy-starved in production. The solution is easy: heat treat it. If you're not having any tarnish problems then your stock may well have been heat treated before you received it and that's great because you're good to go. If you're like me and you're not into taking those kind of chances then by all means heat treat your new stock and then you'll know exactly where you're at. Just to make sure we're on the same page by "heat treat" I mean torch anneal. Kiln annealing is probably just as good but I don't have a kiln so I wouldn't know for certain. > Does the soldering process automatically do this? Yes, as long as you haven't firecoated everything. If you've heated your AS with a torch to annealing or soldering temps _without_ the use of firecoat and _without_ the use of oxygen reducing flames or environments then yes, you have heat treated your AS. > And a post I just read talked about using flux like that was a no > no. I think that post was talking about firecoat not flux. There's nothing whatever wrong with using flux with AS, assuming you're using it in the normal way for the normal reasons. > I use manufactured Prips Flux and have been working the argentium > pretty much like I would any sterling, fluxing everything before > heating. Have I missed something? If by "fluxing" you mean adding flux to your soldering joint to aid the soldering process then no, you're right on track. If by "fluxing" you mean firecoating your entire piece then ... well, see above: firecoating AS is generally unnecessary and is in fact somewhat counterproductive. I can't stress enough that there's no reason to be confused or upset about this. Just remember that AS likes oxygen when heated. That's really all there is to it. This of course means hold the firecoat and forget about reducing flames and atmospheres. Other than that nothing really changes ... except that you'll never have to worry about firestain and tarnishing is pretty much history. Cheers, Trevor F. in The City of Light www.touchmetal.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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