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From: Trevor F Date: Sat Jul 30 22:02:07 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > Bummer. I thought, guess texturing messes up the > tarnish-resistance. Hi Judy, I couldn't resist adding a few more words on this. FWIW I've been making nothing but heavily textured stuff this last month --lots of anticlastic raising which I've thoroughly enjoyed-- and I'm having no trouble with the sparkly finish at all. From what I can tell nothing short of a chisel, file or saw seems to effect the tarnish resistance of a nicely oxidized piece of Argentium Sterling (AS). When I was forging a spoon a while back I noticed that after a few annealings the spoon would not darken at all on subsequent annealings. I concluded from this that the germanium oxide layer on the metal is a lot deeper and more durable than one might think: I'd bash away on the metal, heat, quench and go back to bashing. Pickling was totally unnecessary because there was nothing to pickle off. In fact, nothing short of actually cutting into the metal seemed to damage the no-firescale (and by extension I include the tarnish resistance) properties of the piece. (the pictures in the "Oxide and annealing footnotes" post on the blog (http://www.touchmetal.com/blog/argentium-blog.html) illustrate this) > I'll pop that textured cuff into the oven and see what > happens. If I may suggest something, try this to be absolutely certain that you're getting the full benefits: torch anneal the cuff at least once, pickle, then precip harden it. My guess is that your discoloration problems will be history. I only suggest this because it may well be that you're starting with oxygen starved AS and the torch annealing should solve that problem good and proper. > I'm wondering if it should be pickled or cleaned ionically > BEFORE precip hardening. Guess I'll find out if that's critical. My experience is that precip hardening will often bring a slight discoloration to a piece. This is easily pickled off which is why I pickle _after_ precip hardening and not before. Needless to say your mileage, and needs, may differ. Cheers, Trevor F. in The City of Light www.touchmetal.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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