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From: Alden & Glenda Blood Date: Wed Jul 13 20:57:22 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Hello Kevin; I sent this a couple of days ago, but somehow it got sent to a chemical supplier rather than Orchid. How that happened is beyond me. I apologize for being late. It seems to me that you are saying in your post that the term "oxidize" is not correct when talking about the formation of black silver sulfide on silver metal because an oxide is not formed. Maybe that is not what you intended to say? Chemically speaking the term "oxidize" is correct under the conditions given. Oxidation is defined as the loss of electrons. Oxygen or an oxide is not necessarily involved. For silver metal to form the sulfide it is necessary that the silver give up electrons. That can be written as; Ag(zero charge) = Ag(1 plus) + e(1 minus) When something is oxidized something else has to be reduced. Reduction is defined as the gaining of electrons. The species being reduced in the case of sulfide patination of silver is a little more complicated than, for example, the reaction of zinc with hydrochloric acid. Looking at that reaction for a minute we have; Zn(zero charge) + 2 H(1 plus) + 2 Cl(1 minus) = Zn(2 plus) + 2 Cl(1-minus) + H2 Here the zinc gave up two electrons to become the zinc cation. The electrons were accepted by the hydrogen ions to give hydrogen gas. The zinc was oxidized and the H(1 plus) was reduced. The oxidizing agent (that which caused the oxidation of the zinc) was the hydrogen ions and the reducing agent (that which caused the reduction of the hydrogen ions) was the zinc. Getting back to the case of sulfide patination, the oxidizing agent is the hydrosulfide anion no matter what sulfur compound is used. This is because there is essentially no sulfide anion in aqueous solutions of sulfide salts (Na2S for example). The sulfide anion is an extremely strong base which abstracts a hydrogen ion from water to give the hydrosulfide anion as follows; (1) S(2 minus) + H2O = HS(1 minus) + OH(1 minus) The H(1 plus) part of the HS(1 minus) accepts the electron given up by the silver and is thereby reduced to H(zero). The reactions are: (2) Ag(zero) = Ag(1 plus) + e(1 minus) Oxidation (loss of electrons) (3) HS(1 minus) + e(1 minus) = H + S(2 minus) Reduction (gain of electrons) (4) 2 Ag(1 plus) + S(2 minus) = Ag2S (on the Ag surface) (5) H(zero) + H(zero) = H2 (very fast) Any sulfur anion from reaction (3) that is not close enough to the silver ions on the silver surface to form Ag2S is instantly converted to HS(1 minus) via reaction (1). To summarize, any time a metal reacts to produce a metal compound the metal has been "oxidized" even if oxygen was not involved. Be aware that it is not necessary that the oxidized entity have a zero charge as is the case with metals. For example, the half reaction; 2 Cl(1 minus) = Cl2 + 2 e(1 minus) is an oxidation. It is an oxidation because the chloride anions lost an electron to become zero charge chlorine atoms. I hope the above is germane to the previous posts on the topic. Confusion about "redox" reactions seems to be very common. If I have not read the previous posts correctly, perhaps the information here will still be worthwhile. I just hope I have not created more confusion than may already exist. Captain Blood "Marlinespike Seamanship in Precious Metals" mariner AT tgtel.com Cap ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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