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From: Alden & Glenda Blood Date: Fri Jul 08 01:42:48 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Douglas: You would not need much chemistry to evaluate the pickle potential of the ionic solvent used in the British patent to recover Pd values from spent catalyst. The Edison approach should be sufficient. Some chemical concepts would be helpful in designing trials. For example, boosting the chloride anion concentration to promote metal chloride complex formation (people use this kind of complex every time they add salt to vinegar when cleaning copper pots!) and using acids like citric acid or EDTA (ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid) in place of oxalic acid to promote clathrate complex formation, etc. These types of reaction rate increasing complexes are understood and used by non-chemists on a regular basis. I don't believe the oxalic acid-choline chloride system would attack Pd metal. Dissolving an ionic substance with a strongly polar ionic solvent is one thing. Oxidizing the metal with the ionic solvent is a horse of another color. I don't see what could/would be reduced in the system. One would have to add an oxidizing agent. I intend to check the British ionic solvent out as a potential pickle. If it shows promise then some obvious substitutions would be in order for evaluation. I am too long in the tooth to consider diving into the thicket of patent, manufacturing and marketing considerations if an effective general metal pickle does emerge. Captain Blood "Marlinespike Seamanship in Precious Metals" mariner AT tgtel.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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