[Jewelry making - Article 00062] - Re: [Orchid] Safe Advice

[Kay Davis]

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Good Morning,


    I'm going to reply to the list has this is a common misconception.
    COMMON FIREPROOF SAFES APPLY ONLY TO PAPER AND DOCUMENTS. 
    Please call the safe manufacturer and ask them. The will tell you
    flat out that electronic and Magnetic media are not safe against fire
    in a "safe". This is the reason companies pay for off site storage of
    backups in a secure location. The only real safe method is off site,
    and if you are concerned about data security then buy a second safe
    for the off site location. 

    To be honest I even doubt if silver and gold is safe against fire in
    a fireproof safe. It is a common mistake to believe that a fireproof
    safe keeps heat out, it doesn't all it does is slow down the heat
    rise and keeps a high humidity level inside during the fire. 

    Please note that you can buy Fireproof safes for data storage, yes
    they exist, but they are not at a price that you would like. There is
    an excellent web page that I goggled up this morning at
    http://www.safeoptions.co.uk/techinfo.htm that explains the
    difference. 

    Again, please don't believe me, contact the manufacturer of your safe
    and ask them. I hope you believe them over what a friend  and / or
    salesman at Sams club tells you. 

    Has Robert Heinlien was fond of saying in his books "There ain't no
    such thing has a free lunch" If you want a fireproof Data safe then
    be prepared to pay, if you want a real safe rated for Jeweler's then
    be prepared to pay, If you want one that does both  then be prepared
    to pay a lot more (probably cheaper to buy 2 separate safes) . If
    you want a box to protect some papers against fire for a limited
    time, then you can expect to pay little as 1- they are a commodity
    item and 2 it is very easy to protect paper from fire. 

Kay

PS Sentry can be reached at:

        Phone (U.S. & Canada)
        1-800-828-1438
        Monday-Friday 8:00 AM - 8:00 PM ET
        For other countries or for email contact go to
        http://www.sentrysafe.com/

    PPS if you are like me and hate waiting on hold for "Customer
    service" you can go to Sentry's FAQ page at 
    <edit> Bad URL removed</edit> 
    And click the How do I protect my CDs, disks, audio and video
    cassettes and other magnetic/photographic and data storage media?
    Question and read: CDs, diskettes, audio and video cassettes, photo
    negatives, X-ray films and microfiche need more fire and humidity
    protection than provided by Sentry's standard Fire-Safe product line.
    Damage to these types of media may begin at temperatures above 125BF
    as compared to paper products that may withstand heat up to 350BF. 

    Sentry offers two Fire-Safe media products that provide
    laboratory-tested protection from heat, fire and humidity - Sentry
    Fire-Safe 1710 media chest, and Sentry Fire-Safe 6720 media file. 

    PPPS: My day Job is in the Computer industry these days and more than
    once I have had to explain the facts of life to a client after a
    fire.... Tape, CD's and most backup media melt at low temperatures (
    as per sentry 125 Degrees Farinheight, has per my experience they
    are probably right I have destroyed a backup tape by leaving it in
    the car during the summer). If you are using removable hard disks
    there is a little more latitude, but has soon has the platters in the
    hard disk reach the temperatures where they loose their magnetic
    field they are toast... 

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