[Jewelry making - Article 00031] - Re: [Orchid] Safe Advice

[Roseann Hanson]

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>     The reason gun safes are useless is because any reasonably
>     proficient criminal can peel back the doors with a crow bar (go to
>     any reasonable sized safe company and ask them to show you the
>     samples of peeled safes--a lot of them have them so you can see how
>     easy it is to get into them). If you are going to be protecting
>     some serious jewels than you need a UL rated safe (which,
>     incidentally, is not an "arbitrary measuring stick") that is rated
>     at least TR-TL 15. 

    Hi Daniel - it was I who said "arbitrary measuring stick" and I was
    being facetious, my usual mode when discussing anything related to
    that government-sanctioned legal organized crime racket referred to
    as the insurance business. However, before you arbitrarily write off
    guns safes, see below ;-) 

    My gun safe isn't useless - it has a TL-15 rating which the company
    says has the following onstruction requirements: 

          "U.L. listed Group II, 1 or 1R combination lock. 

          750 lbs. minimum or comes with instructions for anchoring in a
          larger safe, concrete blocks or on the premises where used. 

          Body walls of material equivalent to at least 1" open hearth
          steel with a minimum tensile strength of 50,000 P.S.I. 

          Walls fastened in a manner equivalent to continuous 1/4"
          penetration weld of open hearth steel with minimum tensile
          strength of 50,000 P.S.I. 

          One hole 1/4" or less, to accommodate electrical conductors
          arranged to have no direct view of the door or locking
          mechanism." 

    And the following performance requirements: 

          "Successfully resist entry* for a net working time of 15
          minutes when attacked with common hand tools, picking tools,
          mechan-ical or portable electric tools, grinding points,
          carbide drills and pressure applying devices or mechanisms." 

    It certainly can't be opened with a crowbar, as you say - I've seen
    the marketing that you're talking about, and it's an excellent
    marketing campaign created by  . . . Jewelry safe manufacturers! 

    Since it's in my poured-concrete shop, which has a steel rod network
    in the walls and a steel door, and the safe is bolted into the
    concrete with bolts that were anchored to the steel and poured in
    place, I'm reasonably comfortable that someone would have to work
    darn hard to get our stuff. I'm not hanging on to expensive repair
    jewelry or gems priced over what I could reasonably replace, so I
    feel quite confident. 

Roseann

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