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From: diamondeddy2
Date: Tue May 31 21:02:08 2005
 
     
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    Unfortunately that kind of safe wont protect you from much of
    anything. A punk kid will have that one open in about 5 minutes or
    less with a crowbar. I used to have one and it proved to be a
    complete joke. You need a minimum TL30 rated safe to protect even
    from a punk kid burglar. A TL30 will fend off a pro with state of the
    art tools for aprox 30 minutes. And withou the proper kind of
    fireproofing, that ATM safe is merely a 800 lb oven. Even fireproof
    safes lose ther protective ability with time. After about 20 years a
    fire proof TL30 becomes an oven too, because the fireproofing settles
    to the bottom of the walls and you only have aprox 6 " of protection
    at the bottom. With fireboard, all you have done is added non burning
    material to the inside but the heat is the big problem. When your
    building around it is burning the interior of the safe can heat to a
    few thousand degrees Farhnheit very quickly. You will simply have a
    melted puddle inside since gold and silver both will melt long before
    that. 


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