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From: Zen Sojourner Date: Mon May 09 22:06:53 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Well a friend has offered to let me set up a soldering station in his garage, so I'm suddenly in the market for a torch right away after all. So you argentium workers in particular, what torch(es) are you using, and would you change that for working with argentium if money/space were no object? Previously I had decided to go with a propane-oxygen setup. In the past I have actually used an acetylene-oxygen setup. I NEVER had a problem with firescale using an acetylene-oxygen torch on sterling. But now I'm wondering if I should consider something else since I plan to work as much as possible with Argentium rather than standard sterling, since the Argentium works at lower temps than standard sterling. My thinking is that a less-hot torch will be easier to control. I honestly think that's why some people seem to do so much better soldering with those Benzomatic things which operate at something like 1400 F. A propane-oxygen torch runs at about 4700 F, an acetylene-atmospheric air torch runs at about 4200 F. I can't remember the operating temp for a propane-compressed air torch, but I think its something like 3700 F. Since I have previously worked successfully with acetylene-oxygen (eg no firescale, no major problems melting stuff by accident) I'm wondering if I could get by with an acetylene-atmospheric air torch (eg no air hose, just a single hose for the acetylene). The Silversmith Acetylene torch in the RG catalog is about half the cost of a gas-oxygen Little Smith torch (about $150 instead of $300). Saving money is a Good Thing. However. I have noticed that the smallest tip size for the Silversmith Acetylene torch is larger than even the largest Little Smith tip (LS #7, the largest tip, is .047" and the Silversmith Acetylene tip #00 very fine is 0.7" and they go up from there). How significant is this? I used to do a lot of my soldering with the #2 tip on the Little Smith Acetylene-Oxygen torch, because a lot of my stuff required soldering smaller guage wire and I thought that was appropriate. Don't know if it actually WAS appropriate, but it worked for me. Would using the larger #00 tip of the Silversmith work ok? Since this is a gas-only torch, wouldn't it tend to be LESS oxidizing than an acetylene-oxygen torch? This shouldn't be a problem with the Argentium, but I am still doing some standard sterling work. I've never had a problem with firescale even when I was using the acetylene-oxygen Little Torch (which operates at something like 6000 F), but I guess I ought to take this into consideration before spending on the torch. I seem to remember that turning the O2 down was supposed to give you a reducing flame instead of an oxidizing flame, so in the total absence of the O2 feed, wouldn't it tend to be more of a reducing flame naturally? And how about a propane-compressed air torch? I can't remember for sure, but I THINK a propane-compressed air torch operates at around 3700 F. There's really no cost savings involved here since I'd have to buy an air compressor and regulators anyway. (And I know not to ever ever switch it to Oxygen without replacing all regulators and hoses). Still, is there any advantage to be gained with the lower temp (if that's the right temp, and I'm not sure of that) when working with Argentium? Thanks for any input. Sojourner ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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