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From: Kenneth Ferrell Date: Fri Apr 01 00:50:24 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Continue from: http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive/200503/msg01754.htm I would agree that for the most part there is no such thing, But I also have two smaller cabs of the Original dry creek white turquoise that do have miniscule spots of blue green tinge in a few small areas. I also have several cabs and a few pieces of rough material that are very near white , or at best a very pale near colorless blue that I collected at the Cerillos Turquoise mines nearly 25 years ago. so very much of the mined Turquoise is so absent of color that Eastman co makes special polyester resins with a blue or blue green dye to "Enhance" the material so as to make it sellable and cutable as well. Getting back to the Dry Creek White Turquoise, it actually came from the old played out Burnham mine in Northern Nevada; Burnham produced some of the most beautiful Turquoise mined in the US. as did the Landers property and Fox. I used to buy from a dealer in Rio Rancho New Mexico whose name was Eddie Mauzie, who had tests run by a laboratory that verified that the material was in fact a copper phosphate compound which would seem to qualify it as a Turquoise. Now there are two new contenders one called White Buffalo which is quite different in both color and hardness of the Dry Creek/ Burnham material it has a more vitreous luster and seems slightly harder more in the range of 5+ MOH and the newer White Horse which is the material that does show nice spiderweb patterns. It is actually Magnasite and still selling as a White Turquoise hardness will be between 4 and 5 MOH My experiences are not that of an expert, I started cutting Turquoise in 1975 and was helping stabilize every thing from Howellite treated in a vacuum chamber with Tydee bowl to getting some of the last Landers red web that came out of the hole. If some one had access to an accurate way of accessing the true physical properties of the material I would put up a piece of the Dry Creek just to see whether it was in fact Turquoise, although it would be a moot point, that material to is now extinct I have dealt with some of the largest Turquoise dealers in the southwest, one thing I learned many years ago, what they aren't sure of is what they will swear to. That doesn't necessarily make them dishonest, but it doesn=92t imbue their credibility either. The late Bozo Quinn was sitting in a bar one evening in Tucson and a bit on the tipsy side when he heard of some gentlemen from the mid east that were hitting Gallup and Flagstaff with some killer prices on so so Persian Turquoise. if I remember right it was around .30 per carat, as the night and the drinks laid on Mr. Quinn, headed for Flagstaff with a close to 100 lbs. of great material from Globe, which he was normally selling for .20 to .35 for the best natural " in those days Natural meant it wasn't dyed howellite" or stabilized. Waxed and wiped with India Ink was a different story different. He also had some of the prettiest green material I've ever seen, he said it was Sadie Green Turquoise, and was selling every thing at .20 a carat. Still feeling no severe pain. Long story short but the twenty cent a carat Sadie Green Turquoise turned out to be a Very rare material called Faustite, I found this out when it cost me a perfect score at the California State Fair in 1980 - 5 points for miss labeling. I'd labeled the ring as Gold with Turquoise. Oh Well live and hope we learn Ken Ferrell Jete, deplace, et demode- ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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