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From: Katherine Palochak Date: Thu Mar 17 20:32:30 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > I tried several of the suggested Hydrogen Peroxide Pickles, > both using Sparex and/or vinegar and then the Sparex dip. They > partially worked (removed about 60% of the red stain and brown > sludge) but did leave a grainy texture which I don't like (which is > why I removed the piece at 60% clean). But beyond that, it seemed > to eat away the solder seams at a faster rate, so now the joins are > recessed which of course looks horrible. I usually etch first, then solder. Peroxide pickles attack copper bases, but not silver. It is a weak etch, which is why you get the slightly frosted appearance. This is why it's useful for lifting firescale. But--since you don't want it to etch your soldered seams, you can use a quick brush up with some fingernail polish before putting it in the pickle, which can be removed, after cleaning up the stains from the pickle, with fingernail polish remover. > The solder is a whole other problem. I'm using silver solder > because I can't find a brass one that will flow. A nicely colored brass solder is available from Rio, Thunderbird and IJS. However, it's not brass solder nor Foss-flo. It's silver solder, #45 and #30, which contains 45% and 30% silver respectively. Their high copper and zinc content gives it a brass color that closely matches red brass. It has a high cadmium content to lower the solder flow temperature, and you must have adequate protection from the fumes. These low-temp flow solders will prevent staining on red brass soldering. This staining is probably the result of getting your brass too hot, in order to solder with high-temp flow solders. This causes the copper to rise to the surface from the alloy. ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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