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From: Zen Sojourner Date: Thu Feb 17 18:17:44 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== I finally got hold of someone at Stuller who would talk to me (ummm, I cheated and stole the contact # off this list, thanks, Andy the Tool Guy!). From what I can tell, the fabrication costs (per ounce) are APPROXIMATELY as follows: 5 oz metal price + 5.87 fabrication fee 5 oz to 10 oz metal price + 4.57 fabrication 10 oz to 20 oz metal price + 3.89 fabrication 20oz + metal price + 3.39 fabrication There are probably other price breaks above 20 oz, but since it's unlikely I'll ever buy that much at once, I stopped them there. Grain is considerably cheaper than this, but at this point I'm not quite ready to melt, roll, and draw my own wire. I'm not ruling that out.... just not right now. The price I was quoted for casting grain was either 1.99 fabrication or 84c per ounce, depending on whether the pennyweight price they quoted me was based on a $6 metal base or today's price of $7.15. That was for at least 20 ounces at a time. It was kind of tough figuring this out because they usually sell by the inch and price by the pennyweight (don't ask me, but that's how it goes apparently). It's all computerized and the rep has to enter the amount of wire you want IN INCHES and tell you the total cost, they can't give you a metal + fabrication cost per ounce like Rio Grande or Indian Jeweler's Supply. I was picky, so the friendly helpful sales rep conference called a tech guy, who managed to find a chart giving cost per pennyweight using the above price breaks. From those quoted prices (for 24 gauge wire with a metal base price of $6) I was able to come up with the info above. Other gauges of wire will be cheaper, I imagine sheet is even cheaper yet, and grain would be cheapest of all. They do have a "metals club" where all the metal you buy in a month gets added up for the total quantity discount and you get a rebate or credit to your next order. They were very helpful, friendly and patient. At quantities of 10 oz, Rio Grande charges a $5.10 fabrication fee, for 12 oz fine silver 24 g wire is 4.60. So assuming I did the math right and none of us got our signals crossed, and my assumptions about how to figure the fabrication fee from the pennyweight costs are correct, it looks like the Argentium silver 24 g wire is slightly less expensive than or at least comparably priced to similar wire in fine silver from Rio Grande. E.g., I can afford it. I'm looking forward to trying some weaving and knit/crochet with this stuff. (It won't be that much trouble to draw 24g wire down for some of the finer knit/crochet work). Use these figures as rough estimates only, since there were so many places to "translate" from their pricing scheme to the style I'm more used to using that there's likely some slop in there. But I did try to work up a "worst case" scenario, using the most expensive (I think) form that the material comes in. The solder won't be an issue for me... yet... Sojourner ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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