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From: James White Date: Sat Feb 12 01:30:23 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Hi Tina, > Oh ye of little faith! I do now have a "definitive" answer > from the AMA. I talked with the VP of professional standards again > (I think he finally realized I wasn't going to give up and I was > going to call him every week until I got that definitive answer) > and told him that Congratulations on your bulldog tenacity (and I mean that in a complimentary way). Now you have 1 of 3 answers in definitive form, the one about the AMA origins and their apparent donation of it to the public domain. > The 1963 statement clearly states that "This symbol may appear > in any size and color". If ANYONE wants a copy of the three > different versions of the symbol (AMA, USDHEW, and NHTSA) and the > 1963 AMA statement and the 1964 USDHEW symbol brochure, I will be > more than happy to scan them and either email them or post them > under the Ganoskin galleries. Excellent plan. And, if you might, have the tenacity to get it posted at the AMA site too and it wouldn't be a bad idea to try for NHTSAs web pages either. > re: my "leap" regarding color on the NHTSA brochure (which is > now kind of mute with the AMA's recognition of public domain on > their symbol and statement it could be any size and color) was > based on a Essentially it appears the "off the cuff non-lawyer" requirements given to you by NHTSA was WRONG relative to their trademark which is registered as BLUE only (and without the AMA's enclosing hexagon). Further their blue version, per their actual registration, specifically stipulates: THE CERTIFICATION MARK IS USED BY PERSONS AUTHORIZED BY APPLICANT TO CERTIFY THAT EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE VEHICLES MEET U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS (CLASS A), THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE PERSONNEL OPERATING THE VEHICLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO MEET U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS (CLASS B), OR BOTH Which essentially means you technically are not allowed to use a blue (non-hexagon enclosed) version to symbolize a wearer medical requirement. (So now you have a more? definitive answer on the NHTSA version---don't use it for sure in blue and don't use the r-in-a-circle registration symbol.) And further (not that you've suggested you'll infringe other related trademarks but to preclude others who might make such a mistake) if you search "medic alert" in the US registered trademarks as owner and/or "combo" you'll find the Medic Alert Foundation which has control of those words and a symbol (including the words and a staff and "cut" snake) and a specific "bracelet design" shape of an "ellipse with pointed ends". (see http://www.medicalert.org/Home/homegradient.aspx) > re: the liability issue, my attorney who is a very prominent > intellectual property and contract attorney stated weeks ago that > "anyone can sue anybody over anything. The key is to demonstrate Essentially I agree with your attorney but YOU seem to be bulldogedly missing the main liability point. On the line from "ugly VISIBLE" to "beautiful (nearly) INvisible" you certainly might be sued anywhere---BUT I think your attorney will also tell you the farther you get toward the "beautiful (nearly) INvisible" the probability of a suit rises dramatically, as does the liability. And, I suspect your attorney will also tell you, disclaimers have their limits---especially if a court decides they are really a "bad faith" attempt at appearing to imply that some nearly invisible symbol hidden on some piece of jewelry WILL satisfactorily perform it's intended alerting function. (So really there can be no "definitive" spot answer to this liability issue.) You're the one that has to draw the line with your jewelry---appearances from the Google image search seem to show that many (wisely) draw the line more toward the "ugly VISIBLE" which will make the odds of them being liable vanishingly small and the odds of a suit against them very small. Of course we now definitively know that your use of the original AMA emblem (or perhaps the slightly modified NHTSA version) in jewelry can't be in blue and can't be on an ellipse with pointed ends or include or imply "Medic Alert" unless you qualify for and license rights to those latter two. Good job ferreting out the appropriate information! But please make a calculated decision on where you are WILLING (both in financial liability and human grief terms) to fall on that line rather than just picking a spot because you CAN and your aesthetic bias leans toward "beautiful (nearly) INvisible". James E. White Inventor, Marketer, and Author of "Will It Sell? How to Determine If Your Invention Is Profitably Marketable (Before Wasting Money on a Patent)" Info Sites: www.willitsell.com www.inventorhome.com, www.idearights.com www.taletyano.com www.booksforinventors.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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