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From: Silverspotstudio Date: Fri Jan 14 21:24:42 2005 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Sherry, this is highly disconcerting...I find myself rather angry that this product is being sold without labeling that more emphatically states the dangers of working with it, and I was also led to believe that it was relatively safe to work with, which makes me feel kind of stupid (maybe bamboozled is the word) and therefore even more angry. I used to work as a lab temp and have handled nasty stuff ranging from concentrated hydrochloric acid to capsicum oleoresin to listeria cultures, and I take a little pride in being a "safety geek." My safety glasses hardly ever leave my face when I'm in the shop. So when I worked with the Dip n' Etch, I took what I thought were the appropriate precautions - but your post has made me feel like I might as well have been in my skivvies. Is it not illegal to sell a product without labeling that informs the consumer about its potential dangers? Maybe I missed something, but I don't remember such labeling on the Dip 'n Etch bottle. I tried without much success to locate an MSDS online (there were a few pages masquerading as MSDSs, but they lacked important information). I tried the link you posted, but it led to a 404 message. I did find this link that others may find helpful: http://www.carwash.com/article.asp?IndexID=6631269 Apparently, both HF and ABF have been used for many years in the carwash industry to remove dirt from wheels and wheel wells, with issues similar to the ones we're discussing. I wonder if the concentration of the Dip n' Etch is high enough to be dangerous - acetic acid is very dangerous in its near-pure form, but if you dilute it, you can put it on your salad and eat it. Likewise, sodium hydroxide can be an extremely nasty chemical, but it is used in, among other things, body lotion. However, one site gives the percentage of ammonium bifluoride in the Dip n' Etch solution as 20%, which sounds pretty darn high. (On a side note, since the beginning of the discussion about HF, I've been reminded of a wrenching episode of "Chicago Hope" or "ER" - this was quite a few years ago - in which a worker at a glass factory or something similar spilled HF on his arm and then proceeded to die in agony over the course of the show. Anybody else recall that one? Scared the bejeezus out of me...) Anyway, please let us know when your article in Lapidary Journal will be published. I think many of us will be very keen to read it. Many thanks, Jessee Smith www.silverspotstudio.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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