[Jewelry making - Article 00163] - Re: [Orchid] Need of business advice

[Bill]

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Dear Julia,

    The last thing I like to do is give legal advise, but this is a very
    difficult and personal situation. Emotionally charged. It hits close
    to home. 

    Get an arbitrator. Now!  Do not wait. Ask all your friends, your
    banker, your accountant, everybody for recommendations. Interview
    them, discuss cost, pick the one you feel most comfortable with. Is
    there a law school near by? Use them. The relief will be like a
    breath of air to a drowning person. The feeling of being manipulate
    should diminish almost immediately. You will gain control of the
    situation. Do it now, do not delay a day. 

    Get your ducks in a row. Write down everything you want and the
    compromises you are willing to make during negotiations. You should
    consider not attending meetings. Let the third party communicate and
    negotiate for you. Get it all in writing. Make it very legal. Very
    non-personal. 

    The considerations can be complicated if they are not willing to be
    forthcoming. For instance if they are to pay you a commission on
    your designs. How do you know they sold any? Do you want access to
    there documentation when it appears they never sell your designs?
    Maybe they should just pay you for the designs outright and then it
    is over. A lot to think about and the arbitrator will help you
    define a course of action. 

    Remember, there is a less emotional and easier way,  just walk away.
    Forget it, get on with your life. 

The best of luck. Bill 









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>Hi all!
>
>     I really hope that some of you may be able to offer me some business
>     advice that I have been putting off...
>
>     to not bore anyone, I will get right to the point.(but bear with me
>     while I try to relate all relevent information)
>
>     I am a jeweler.  I have worked for the same company for the past 15
>     years. while employed there I did repair work and custom designs.   I
>     have approx. 200 designs of my own....designed a fabricated by me in
>     the store.  I have a base of customers who like and request my work.
>     I have won the Pennsylvania Jewelers  Award while employed at the
>     store 4 times and have been written up in National Jeweler Magazine.
>
>     sounds good, eh?
>     ok, now the problem.
>
>     the employers are my parents and we had a terrible falling out. At
>     the time I was pregnant and crushed at the loss of my job.  (the
>     falling out had more to do with problems between mom and dad than
>     with me myself)
>
>     now i have a beautiful 6 mos old son and I work part time for a
>     small outfit doing repair work and I am not very satisfied with the
>     situation.  I have started the process of beginning my own
>     business....(I have found many of the posts VERY helpful....the
>     funding for a new studio thread was wonderful)
>
>     now for the advice part....
>
>     My old employer (my parents) after they forced me to quit they have
>     refused to tell any of their customers that I am no longer working
>     there (they have told customers I am on maternity leave)  they still
>     have signs up that say "awarding winning jeweler on premesis".
>
>     they refuse to give me acess or commission (that was promised) in
>     any way to the 200 designs of my own that remain in the store....(now
>     the supplies to produce these were bought by the store, however i was
>     promised some type of commmission on the "intellectual copyright" of
>     these designs) i asked if we could come up with some type of contract
>     so that I could show my work....but to no avail!
>
>     I am trying to start with a clean slate....but being a new mom that
>     is trying to fund a studio it would really help to have some kind of
>     access to my work or some kind of financial compensation that i was
>     promised.
>
>     Can I add that this has been very difficult for me. I trained under
>     my father who is also a jeweler.  I always thought the business would
>     be mine someday and I feel hurt and betrayed and because of my son I
>     have to speak to them and ignore this problem, and when I bring it up
>     I usually get no response or angry accusations.  I miss my old job, I
>     miss my parents (our relationship isn't the same), and I miss doing
>     the work that I so love to do.
>
>please, fire away with the advice....
>thanks,
>-julia
>
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<div>Dear Julia,</div>
<div>The last thing I like to do is give legal advise=8A but this is a
very difficult and personal situation. Emotionally charged. It hits
close to home.<br>
</div>
<div><b>Get an arbitrator. Now!&nbsp; Do not wait.</b> Ask all your
friends, your banker, your accountant, everybody for recommendations.
Interview them, discuss cost, pick the one you feel most comfortable
with. Is there a law school near by? Use them. The relief will be like
a breath of air to a drowning person. The feeling of being manipulate
should diminish almost immediately. You will gain control of the
situation. Do it now, do not delay a day.<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite>Get your ducks in a row. Write down
everything you want and the compromises you are willing to make during
negotiations. You should consider not attending meetings. Let the
third party communicate and negotiate for you. Get it all in writing.
Make it very legal. Very non-personal.</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>The considerations can be complicated if they are not willing to
be forthcoming. For instance if they are to pay you a commission on
your designs. How do you know they sold any? Do you want access to
there documentation when it appears they never sell your designs?
Maybe they should just pay you for the designs outright and then it is
over. A lot to think about and the arbitrator will help you define a
course of action.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Remember, there is a less emotional and easier way=8A&nbsp; just
walk away. Forget it, get on with your life.</div>
<div>The best of luck.</div>
<div>Bill</div>
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Hi all!<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I really hope that some of you may be able to offer
me some business<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; advice that I have been putting off...<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to not bore anyone, I will get right to the
point.(but bear with me<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; while I try to relate all relevent information)<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am a jeweler.&nbsp; I have worked for the same
company for the past 15<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; years. while employed there I did repair work and
custom designs.&nbsp;&nbsp; I<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; have approx. 200 designs of my own....designed a
fabricated by me in<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the store.&nbsp; I have a base of customers who
like and request my work.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have won the Pennsylvania Jewelers&nbsp; Award
while employed at the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; store 4 times and have been written up in National
Jeweler Magazine.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sounds good, eh?<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ok, now the problem.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the employers are my parents and we had a terrible
falling out. At<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the time I was pregnant and crushed at the loss of
my job.&nbsp; (the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; falling out had more to do with problems between
mom and dad than<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; with me myself)<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now i have a beautiful 6 mos old son and I work
part time for a<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; small outfit doing repair work and I am not very
satisfied with the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; situation.&nbsp; I have started the process of
beginning my own<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; business....(I have found many of the posts VERY
helpful....the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; funding for a new studio thread was wonderful)<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now for the advice part....<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My old employer (my parents) after they forced me
to quit they have<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; refused to tell any of their customers that I am no
longer working<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; there (they have told customers I am on maternity
leave)&nbsp; they still<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; have signs up that say &quot;awarding winning
jeweler on premesis&quot;.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; they refuse to give me acess or commission (that
was promised) in<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; any way to the 200 designs of my own that remain in
the store....(now<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the supplies to produce these were bought by the
store, however i was<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; promised some type of commmission on the
&quot;intellectual copyright&quot; of<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; these designs) i asked if we could come up with
some type of contract<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; so that I could show my work....but to no
avail!<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am trying to start with a clean slate....but
being a new mom that<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is trying to fund a studio it would really help to
have some kind of<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; access to my work or some kind of financial
compensation that i was<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; promised.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Can I add that this has been very difficult for me.
I trained under<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; my father who is also a jeweler.&nbsp; I always
thought the business would<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be mine someday and I feel hurt and betrayed and
because of my son I</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; have to speak to them
and ignore this problem, and when I bring it up<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I usually get no response or angry accusations.&nbsp;
I miss my old job, I<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; miss my parents (our relationship isn't the same),
and I miss doing<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the work that I so love to do.<br>
<br>
please, fire away with the advice....<br>
thanks,<br>
-julia<br>
<br>
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Welcome to Reactive Metals Studio, Inc. <br>
Thank you for making contact. We hope we can serve your needs and
introduce you to some new and old exotic materials.&nbsp; RMS has over
20 years as the leader in exotic jewelry metals.<br>
Deborah, Michele, Bill<br>
<br>
Reactive Metals Studio, Inc.<br>
PO Box 890 * Clarkdale, AZ 86324<br>
Ph-928/634-3434 * Ph-800/876-3434 * Fax-928/634-6734<br>
E-mail- info AT reactivemetals.com<br>
Catalog- www.reactivemetals.com</div>
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