| |
|||
| The Gem and Jewelry World's foremost Resource on The Internet. |
| Re: [Orchid] Copal vs. Amber | ||
|
[Thread Prev]
[Message Prev]
[Date Index]
[Thread Index]
[Message Next]
[Thread Next]
From: jake Date: Mon Nov 15 19:16:46 2004 |
||
========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Some basic information on amber can be found at http://home.t-online.de/home/Arnold-Heide/lexicon.htm and http://www.gemsociety.org/info/gems/Amber.htm - There is more information out there. A word of caution, some people have a vested interest, so be skeptical, much like natural turquoise is so hard to find, not really, they just don't want to pay for it and so invent a rationalization, a "story" actually. Sad to say this sometimes applies to other tings as well. Dominican amber is a case in point, there is amber deposits but much larger copal deposits, non processed stones are most likely copal, as by law they are not to be exported. Best acetone test: Place one drop on the surface of the test piece and allow it to evaporate, then place a second drop on the same area. Copal will become tacky; amber will remain unaffected by contact with acetone. Alcohol testing is said by some to be biased as you may get a false result on non-Baltic amber, such as Lebanon, Burma, Dominican, and Sicilian, New Jersey, etc., etc., etc. Other types came from different trees and is not the same chemically, so this may not be a good test, unless it is said to be Baltic. As for Colombian, there is material from Santander, this has some non-copal qualities. However this is not accepted as amber and doesn 92t meet all qualifications. To sell it as amber could cause problems, at least if you ever wanted to be taken seriously as a professional, the stuff is great for wire wrapping, just tell them what it is. I do not sell any or have I, nor do I think I will, but I wonder if Santander should be differentiated to set it apart from other copal. To those who repeat that (all) Colombian copal is only a few hundred to (at most) a few thousand years old, this is taken from someone who it is said never tested the Santander material. In any event according to Geologists the deposits were laid down between 1 and 2 million years ago, and some perhaps 3, I will believe them on this, as they have no interest. I will use excerpts from Identifying True Amber. "In some cases copal, which is tree resin which has not yet fully fossilized to amber and may be anything up 3-4 million years" 85. "Debate still rages in the UK about certain Kenyan deposits as to whether they should be called copal or amber and I have heard of similar arguments concerning deposits found in South America." (This last is a reference to the Santander material mentioned above.) This last is interesting; there exists copal old enough to be amber. But is not. We do not yet know just what turns copal to amber, some have suggested some conditions but we really do not know. Do you know that some copal (a small amount) comes from the Baltic? We are all told that green shades of turquoise have iron, this is true. However Persian turquoise often used as the standard has a higher iron trace than others, and this is obviously blue, so we still do not know everything. I read on this list a suggestion that you could tell amber from copal as it is darker. This is wrong. Below is from a cutting hose, realize that this has been going on since the ice age. And although this is treated the same thing happens naturally, spangles (blitz) occur naturally, but it is almost certain to have been man induced, as is much of the "amber" coloring. I have seen a photo taken in the 60s of Bitterfield amber in large piles stored outside in the sun over time to "cure" it, this dose some of the same. "Most of the natural rough stones are milky, pale or translucent but very light yellow. To match the taste and the requirement of the consumers, a very special technique of heat treatment for these stones has been developed, whereas each company, working with these fine stones, keeps their developed technique as a secret part of know-how for themselves. Just by heating these stones (at low temperature), the following general changes will appear: If heat and air (as in a regular stove is the case) is supplied to the stones, the material will clear up and darken. If stones are heated under vacuum (i.e. by an autoclave), stones will clear but not changing their color to a darker shade. By special techniques, heat may cause the "Glitter" to appear inside of the stone. Properties of the gem do not change at all, so that such a heat treatment to Amber may never be proofed and the stone still to be considered as natural Amber." (Natural conditions can also cause the same changes; no test can differentiate the two. Archeologists have found evidence of people treating amber some 14,000 years ago.) ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
||
| Navigate: | ||
|
||
| Orchid Resources: | ||
|
Join & Post Invite a friend to join Orchid F.A.Q Galleries BenchExchange Orchid Blogs Orchid Message Archives [Subject Index] [Date Index] Ganoksin now offers a number of ways for you to stay on top of the latest from Orchid!
|
||
© Copyright 1996 - 2009, The Ganoksin
Project